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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:47 AM
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its a 98 hx AT.wen i start the car,everything is fine,when placed in neutral it sounds normal. But if i put it in drive or reverse it sounds like a rock in a dryer or something.any idea as to why ? and is there any parts from an EX i can use to swap some malfunctioning parts out?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 05:42 AM
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sounds like its is junk. trannys are super cheap..just get another from a junk yard $75 and slap it on
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Old May 28, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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well is there fuild? if so how does it look?
how many miles?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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well is there fuild? if so how does it look?
how many miles?
about 120k.there was fluid and the boot on one of the axles looked kinda trashed.i thought those just clicked when you turned though?
with the HX being cvt,is there anyway to just replace its trany with that of an EX of the same gen?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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they do click when they gone, but i have seen them so bad there acutully torn in two

yea im pretty sure lots of people do this. im no expert on hxs tho.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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outer cv's click on turns..inner cv's clunk on accel/decel.

but cv joints is "not" your issue here. (edit: i could be wrong with not knowing if the car drives or not..)


whats the level of the fluid?

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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Capsule Kid
its a 98 hx AT.wen i start the car,everything is fine,when placed in neutral it sounds normal. But if i put it in drive or reverse it sounds like a rock in a dryer or something.any idea as to why ? and is there any parts from an EX i can use to swap some malfunctioning parts out?
Tranny is probably bad, HX CVTs were known for problems. The only thing you can run in it is another HX CVT tranny (or possibly the JDM CVT/MMT found mated to a lot of the OBD2 JDM D15B 3 stage Vtecs.) due to several wiring and mount issues, even an auto to manual swap is considerably harder on an automatic HX due to the way the mounts are set up (although its still much easier than trying run another automatic in it)

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Trannys are super cheap..just get another from a junk yard $75 and slap it on
HX trannys aren't cheap or easy to find, or at least thats my assumption, considering that there aren't very many of them, and they weren't particularly reliable in the first place.

Edit, never noticed the part about the axles. You can break CV joints (ask me how I know) I've seen the cage the ***** run in for the outer joint completely self destruct before. So, jack the car up, and see what happens when you put it in gear, if the inner joints turn and the wheels don't you've got a bad axle. If not see what I said earlier.

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Old May 28, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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no hx tranny arent easy to find. and i have heard they a b**ch to put a tranny in.
its your call on what you want
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Old May 28, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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does the car drive?
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by waaBAAH
does the car drive?
yeah,it will go forward if put in drive etc.but it just sounds like death.like imagine putting a rock in a dryer or putting astone baseball card in your bicycle spokes then pedaling
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Old May 29, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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welll dont get the same tranny..get a different one
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
welll dont get the same tranny..get a different one
As I mentioned above, you can't.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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well,i have a 94 LS motor(auto),but cant find a consistent list as to what all i will need to make the auto to manual conversion so i can drop it in in the HXs stead
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Old May 31, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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input shaft bearing
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Old May 31, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sanegb16
input shaft bearing
is that even worth trying to replace?
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Capsule Kid
well,i have a 94 LS motor(auto),but cant find a consistent list as to what all i will need to make the auto to manual conversion so i can drop it in in the HXs stead
Theres a ton of auto to manual how tos for '96 - '00s and one write up that specifically pertains to the HX.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:09 AM
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is this the only D series motor that not interchangeable?can i not get an EX tranny and ECu and make it run?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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honestly it would be cheaper in the long run to get a manual tranny and convert over. The cvt used in the hx is a totall pos and after about 100k or so miles it takes a huge dump. The other automatics that honda has used in the civics are much better but they still do not have the durability that the manual has. If you converted over to a 5 speed you could use any d series tranny you wanted with the one from the ex the best due to the closer gear ratios. If I'm not mistaken I've heard that the hx manual is the same as a cx/dx. My 97 hx w/ 180k miles not one single issue with the tranny and still running the orig. clutch.

There is nothing that I can think of that makes the hx harder to convert over, I think the hardest part would be finding the manual version of a p2n which is the d16y5 ecu. If you could find one of those you'd be set.
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