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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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So i just acuired a bare gsr block n crank this passed weekend... I plan to turbo it. so i took it to the machine shop n they told me they could get me an "engine kit" which includes rings bearing, main bearing, thrustwasher, pistons, gaskets & oil pump for $442 total oem spec.. and $850 total with JE Pistons n Eagle rods...
Block needs a bore which they gave me a price of $125, micro polish the crank for $65 and Balance the engine for $200.. Last but not least assemble the whole block for 350.

What ya think about those prices? Also should i assemble the block myself or would it be smarter to have the machine shop do it?

300+ WHP is the goal...

Should I also go with a b16 head or stick with the gsr head?

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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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i dunno about prices i cant remember when i got mine done haha. but if you know what you 're doin then just do it yourself save the money. i just wanted a shop to do mine so i kjnow it was all squared away. and my setup is gsr block and head 9;1 and itr cams thats all except turbo kit of course lol. and i ran a 12.17 on nine pounds gonna get it dyno'd this summer.

do some read ups on the heads to compare imo at least you already got gsr cams if u get the gsr head
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Old May 18, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BoostnEK6206
at least you already got gsr cams if u get the gsr head
True; i would also like for the machine shop to do it so i kno nothings wrong with it. That and i'm not too sure if the torque specs are the same ?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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if your not 100% confident doing it yourself, just let the machine shop assemble it, 350 isnt really that much in the scheme of things when putting a turbo car together
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Old May 18, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Yeah i more and more i think about it the machine shop knows best.. Now should i get a block guard or anything else so i can make the bottom end bulletproof? Also for the head gasket; there is so much controversy on which to use. OEM or Cosmetic or other? and reason why its best?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Yeah i more and more i think about it the machine shop knows best.. Now should i get a block guard or anything else so i can make the bottom end bulletproof? Also for the head gasket; there is so much controversy on which to use. OEM or Cosmetic or other? and reason why its best?
bullet proof bottom end = getting it sleeved.

block guard = cheap not so good insurance
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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I think i might go with the gsr head since i found one for 200 w/o Intake and dizzy.. what do ya think?
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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all those prices sound pretty decent, stick with the GSR head, there really isnt going to be much difference at 300hp level.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Defiant_dc
So i just acuired a bare gsr block n crank this passed weekend... I plan to turbo it. so i took it to the machine shop n they told me they could get me an "engine kit" which includes rings bearing, main bearing, thrustwasher, pistons, gaskets & oil pump for $442 total oem spec.. and $850 total with JE Pistons n Eagle rods...
Block needs a bore which they gave me a price of $125, micro polish the crank for $65 and Balance the engine for $200.. Last but not least assemble the whole block for 350.

What ya think about those prices? Also should i assemble the block myself or would it be smarter to have the machine shop do it?

300+ WHP is the goal...

Should I also go with a b16 head or stick with the gsr head?
Is that $850 for the OEM rebuild kit, pistons and rods together?

If so, that is a pretty DAMN good deal. If not, still a good deal.

For the OEM parts..which I'm working on right now...i'm hitting $578.89....thats not including the pistons and rods like yourself...and nor the head studs.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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that price for brand new OEM pistons/rods ect. thats a god damn good deal for OEM parts.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Is that $850 for the OEM rebuild kit, pistons and rods together?

If so, that is a pretty DAMN good deal. If not, still a good deal.

For the OEM parts..which I'm working on right now...i'm hitting $578.89....thats not including the pistons and rods like yourself...and nor the head studs.
yeah its for the pistons and rods together; i just bought a complete gsr swap. So the blocks gon b sitting alil longer than planned atleast another month or 2.. But plans for boost is still ther

How much boost can i run on stock gsr motor safely with a 14b turbo? =p
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Just don't run the 14b. not worth all the work you're putting into this. Start your first GS-R Block the first time out.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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$200 to balance the bottom end is very steep, considering you need practically NOTHING done to it anyways. Even my D16 crank only needed 2 small holes drilled. I'd recommend you balance the clutch's PP first, that tends to be more out of balance. Then the crank, then the flywheel. Their prices for work seems to be a little high, but that's usually based on region.

$850 for bottomend parts is good, but be careful with OEM "spec". I've seen oem spec parts fail spectacularly. Once you use 3rd part rebuild parts, you loose 50% of the benifits of running a Honda - good parts. The true OEM headgasket from Honda is an multilayer stainless (MLS), and blows Cometic out of the water. Cometic is great with a freshly-milled head/block, but more people have Cometic issues on Hondas despite only being on 5% of built motors.

The B16 head has better options for intake manifolds (ITR for cheap), and slightly lower compression. The GSR will make for a better daily driver, since the IAB's help with low-end better than the b16 IM. Honestly I wouldn't base it off the cams, people hype the GSR's like crazy, and its a waste of money IMO vs ITR's - you can get them cheap used, but with less miles on them.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Default Re: My first gsr..block

So thats a negitive on the boost on stock motor.
OEM from Honda headgasket, and a nay on balancing the bottom end...

Some pics.. teaser?





Whatcha think??
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