Exactly what it says...i have a 93 EX coupe with 143000 should i get the B16A2 and turbo it or do internals on my SOHC and turbo it or just a swap?

 

if u are willing to put alot of maintenace care, do the turbo. if not just get a swap. less maintenance and more reliable.

 

what would u suggest for a swap and parts to do do it for a reasonable price? id liek to have a fairly quick car something that will beat most imports here in grim *** maine...also where would i get some of the thigns u suggest

 

Quick, use the search before the OGs get here!

 

C'mon i seriously need help on this...im tryign to learn more and do all this work myself...anyone?

 

i say save some more money and go with a GSR swap. You will like the more torque of the 1.8. U could also turbo it later on.

 

how much is a full swap doign it on my own....(i.e. motor, tranny, ecu, etc) and do i need new mounts for anything?

 

b16's vtec run around 2-2.5k ( high top end )
b18b non vtec around 1-2k ( neck breaker from a complete stop )
b18c1 vtec around 2.5-3.3k ( a little of both worlds )
b18c5 vtec around 5k ( both worlds combined with semi race internals. )

u can probably get these cheaper if ur gonna buy them as is and not installed. wutever u do, look for motors from private sellers first before u go to a shop.

are u sure u can do it on ur own? u will need diff mounts depending on wut car ur gonna put it into and on what motor ur putting in. before u do a swap. make sure u do ur homework or else u will regret doin the swap byurself. also make sure of ur wiring. OBD1 and OBD2

[Modified by Kb8, 2:26 PM 8/18/2002]


[Modified by Kb8, 2:27 PM 8/18/2002]

 

B18C1's go for about $3-3500 online. If you have hookups, then good on ya mate. Install should be fairly straightforward.

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A few years ago I would have said swap and nothing more.

But after seeing numerous turbo'd D16Z6 motors pushing very respectable whp numbers and 1/4 mile times I can honestly say that you've got a tough decision.

What kind of shape is your motor/tranny in? If the motor is smoking in the least bit or the tranny has that mainshaft bearing noise that is so typical for the 1992-1995 Civics then your answer is get the swap and you will love it.

I had a 1992 Si hatch and after 100K miles the tranny took a ****. Swapped in another used one and it too took a **** after 6 months. This was totally stock except for an AEM intake and a CenterForce Dual Friction clutch.

SOHC trannies aren't known for their reliability, and neither are boosted 150K motors if you don't have it TUNED properly in terms of A/F ratios, etc.

You must also understand that a boosted motor will require more care than a swap. You need to let it properly warm up and cool down, try not to do that free-revving **** that some people do just to make the blow-off valve go nuts to impress people, etc. If you get a decent turbo set-up with good fuel management then you should be able to beat most of the B series swaps excluding some Type R swaps and of course built B16A or B18C motors.

Example?

I run 13.3 on a totally stock B18C5 swap. All I have is an intake, exhaust, and ECU program. This was on baby slicks and a car that weighed 2040lbs. There was a 1994 EX coupe at the strip on the same day that ran 13.4 on drag radials and he must have weighed at least 2300lbs. Now he said his motor was built, but his times were right there with mine and he had 300 more lbs. to pull and he wasn't on full-out slicks.

Impressive.

Compare prices too. Most GS-R B18C1 swaps go for like $3,300.00-$3,600.00 depending on mileage and the B16A swaps can be had for $2,350.00 from http://www.hondamotorsonline.com

You will have to wait for the good boosted SOHC guys to come on here and give you their turbo set-up prices.

Let me also add one more thing:

If your goal isn't to be THE fastest then I'd still say swap. Drop it in and have no worries. I drive the **** out of mine and I've never had one single problem with the engine. The maintenance is no worse than your current motor, and you don't have to worry about engine temps and all that hassle **** you get with a turbo motor. You might not be as fast to start, but put a small turbo on a B16A or B18C and kiss the SOHC boosted street cars goodbye.

No offense to our SOHC brothers - you guys are awesome for going fast on the SOHC motors. It's just common sense that *if* someone can add boost later on to their swap that it will be easier and less strenuous on a B-Series motor that's boosted to put out similiar whp and times than a boosted SOHC motor.

Good luck, and keep us posted!




[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 5:32 PM 8/18/2002]

 

check out www.nippon-motors.com they usually have pretty decent prices on swaps. Plus they have pretty much every motor you would want.

 

nippon motors

 

i used to have a boosted vx d15 (i know its not d16 but..) and it sucked ****. i took off the turbo for smog and now im selling the turbo. waiting for my next tax return to do a swap. this is my opinion...

 

with 143,000 miles on your engine i would get a swap, and then start saving for a turbo on the new motor

 

Nippon Motors sucks big, hairy donkey *****.

Their prices might be good, but their "swaps" are shitty and very incomplete.

 

My SOHC/boost full set up, set me back $1800. I'm not in it for the power though, just wanted boost.