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Old May 13, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Ok, I just put together a JDM D15B with a Y8 V-Tec head and if i drive under 4000 RPM it never smokes or burns oil. i can drive 3 weeks and not burn any oil. but after a day or 2 at the track beating on my car, I come all the way back home and i loose like a quarter of a quart of oil that fast. maybe half a court not sure.

The block i think is pretty low mileage.

But a little info on the head, Well my homeboys d16y8 00 ex started knocking. so we drained the oil and put washing powders, hot sauce, and some rocks into the oil and started the car and revved it till the rod flew threw the block. after that we pulled the y8 head and it sat for a year until i needed it lol. i cleaned it real good with gas but maybe this is why it smokes? not sure.

Just need to know what i should do to fix this and how much.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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bump?
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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ummm, wow


i doubt that the hot sauce, laundry detergent, and rocks were good for the valves and seals. Your valve seals are probably toast.

I don't know why you even thought to use the head without replacing the valvetrain after what you did to it
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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seals? or maybe cuz your in vtec while beating on it for so long
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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yea, i think its the valve seat seals. if i took the head off and the cam how much would a shop charge me to put them in?
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Smoking above 4000RPM.

BWAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You just answered your own question!! HAHAHAHA!!

The things people must say behind your back.. You're an "A" student, aren't ya?? =]
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Smoking above 4000RPM.

Originally Posted by TravisCadello
yea, i think its the valve seat seals. if i took the head off and the cam how much would a shop charge me to put them in?
answered yur own question
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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i have tampered with single cams for a little.....and their valves and seal tend to go check them and run it again....!!!!
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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I had a feeling it was them but i wasn't for sure. what are the chances of the problem being the piston rings?
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gotz2b16
BWAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You just answered your own question!! HAHAHAHA!!

The things people must say behind your back.. You're an "A" student, aren't ya?? =]
hell no. why you say that? i dropped out in 10th grade. but ill make up for that in college.
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Originally Posted by TravisCadello
what are the chances of the problem being the piston rings?
If it wasn't doing it before the head swap, i'd say a <1% chance. lol
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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No, I never ran this block at all. my old d16z6 i took out and put this block in and put the head in. so the block is new to me and the head used to not smoke but a long time ago.

So I've never used this block with any other head.
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Oh okay. I still bet it's the valve seals.
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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how much does that run?
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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The job or the seals themselves?

Seals are pretty cheap OEM Honda, a full set for around $20-30.

I don't know how much the job costs, I don't put random **** in my crankcase.
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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oh ok, I was wondering the labor for the machine shop to pull the valves out and put the new stem seals in..hmmm.

what else should be done while its at the machine shop?
Old May 16, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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you should have them do a port and polish, 3 angle valve job, just build the whole head shile youre at it.......thats what i did with my DOHC V-tec
Old May 16, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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So, Port n polish,3 angle valve job and shave the bottom? sound good.?
Old May 16, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Why don't you just go to the machine shop and ask them what services they offer and get a price list instead of asking us?
Old May 16, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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they can do anything. but im just trying to find out what is necessary to do.
Old May 16, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Smoking above 4000RPM.

Maybe I read over the thread too quickly, but are you wanting a shop to replace valve stem seals? You know you just have to push those on, right?
Old May 16, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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ya, but last time i took out the valves i lost half the lockers. and dont wanna deal with it unless i get ahold of a good tool for the springs.
Old May 16, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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I think they make a tool that uses magnetism to catch the keepers when you pop them off. Putting them back in is still a pain, but if you're careful enough, you shouldn't lose any. Plus it's probably easier with the head off the car. But anyway, if you're having machine work done to the head, then yeah, you might as well have them do it.
Old May 17, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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welcome to vtec
Old May 17, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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I found a P08-5 head for $50 from a friend non smoking lol. should i put it on or rebuild the y8 head?



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