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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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im a turbo newbie, and i recently had a turbo system installed on my 96lude h22, my ? is, do i need to somehow re-connect the "starting air valve" vaccuum hose to the charge pipe? this pipe did not have a fitting for it, but i do know that this hose was connected to the stock intake pipe, i've been driving with it disconnected quite some time now..
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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well im not turbo but im cam'd and piratemcfred sold me a SAV blocking plate(got rid of the SAV) for 7bux so id ask him if that would help ur application
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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whats sav?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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SAV is the topic you brought up. Starting Air Valve - SAV
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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SAV is the topic you brought up. Starting Air Valve - SAV
oh duh, sorry, ya you think itll help?got pic?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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this is the picture that piratemcfred posted on my thread...
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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this is the picture that piratemcfred posted on my thread...
ah, cool does it run okay like that? what is the benefit of blockit the sav?
i sort of simulated that, or at least i think i was, what i did was put my finger on the sav vacuum hose while the car was running, i felt suction, i then revvd it up alil, and the rpms climb, and the rpm decreases very slowly, when i let go of the throttle, while doing this, i noticed a popping noise...is this way the same thing as if i were to eliminate/add block plate as shown in your pic?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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im not 100% the reason why i did this is because my idle surged big time and when i took it off it stoped surging so like i said just PM pirateMcfred he should know if it will benifit your application
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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My JDM H22A came with no starting air valve and instead has a factory block-off bolted on. Starts and idles fine.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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oh okay, hey thanks alot guys, ya ill try n pm him
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Damn, you're a total car newbie, haha jk. The SAV just provides a bit more air startup, and it is not needed.

You can make a plate out of anything, just cut out the right shape. My plate is made out of a slice of carbon fiber from the bottom of my hood...works fine.

You felt suction because the engine creates vacuum. It won't run any different if the valve is hooked up or not provided you don't have a vacuum leak.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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haha yup newbee hea.thanks guys
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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Damn, you're a total car newbie, haha jk. The SAV just provides a bit more air startup, and it is not needed.

You can make a plate out of anything, just cut out the right shape. My plate is made out of a slice of carbon fiber from the bottom of my hood...works fine.

You felt suction because the engine creates vacuum. It won't run any different if the valve is hooked up or not provided you don't have a vacuum leak.
well it made a difference with mine way after it was started it surged like crazy and wen i disconnected it, it ran perfect
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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well it made a difference with mine way after it was started it surged like crazy and wen i disconnected it, it ran perfect
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provided you don't have a vacuum leak.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by red92si
My JDM H22A came with no starting air valve and instead has a factory block-off bolted on. Starts and idles fine.
Yup my JDM h22 came stock like that too!!
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Lots of the parts in your car essentially "do nothing"

Like the horn for instance. What are you going to do with that? Chances are your just going to yell obsenities anyway
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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trust me talk to pirate about it he will tell u it makes a diff...atleast with stage3 cams like my application
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Mattsnooz, if you've been around you might have noticed that my engine's a little different than most. Removing the SAV helped my setup big time. On a VTEC engine that pulls more than 700mbar manifold pressure at idle the SAV is fine to run. The POS SAV on a big cammed engine causes a surge at idle. If you're mostly stock it wont' do a bit of good for you to remove it. It didn't come on engines from JDM land, as was said before and it's not necessary. If it's not necessary then remove it.

You're free to do to your engine what you like. On mine I'll do what I like.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
Mattsnooz, if you've been around you might have noticed that my engine's a little different than most. Removing the SAV helped my setup big time. On a VTEC engine that pulls more than 700mbar manifold pressure at idle the SAV is fine to run. The POS SAV on a big cammed engine causes a surge at idle. If you're mostly stock it wont' do a bit of good for you to remove it. It didn't come on engines from JDM land, as was said before and it's not necessary. If it's not necessary then remove it.

You're free to do to your engine what you like. On mine I'll do what I like.
get 'em pirate
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