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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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i was working on my car in the garage, i had it running for about a hour and when i got back in the car to pull it out of the garage i saw my temp gauge was all the way up =[. coolant was leaking and smoke was coming from it, turned it off and let it sit, filled the coolant back up and today i started it and white smoke is coming out of the exhaust. My idle is stuck at 2500 and it bogs if push the throttle and let off. =[ whats up with it? i was pretty sure i had a faulty thermostat because the heat never works.....but did i fry my rings?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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If it were ur rings it lose compression n idle choppy or start up n shut off rite after its the thermostat bro
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

check the oil and see if theres water in it... thats usually a strong indicator of a blown headgasket. out of curiosity why where you letting your car idle for an hour?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pinkybuilt22
If it were ur rings it lose compression n idle choppy or start up n shut off rite after its the thermostat bro
idle bogs from 2500 to 1000 and back up if i tap the gas at all, and sometimes by itself.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

Open the oil cap n if it looks milky its the heasgasket dude
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kricket88
check the oil and see if theres water in it... thats usually a strong indicator of a blown headgasket. out of curiosity why where you letting your car idle for an hour?
haha i was workin on it and i wound up getting sidetracked talking with a friend next door, lost track of time and it just slipped my mind =/. wanted it to heat up so i can hear my new header when its hot. didnt want it to heat up that much...
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

just went back outside, i had to refill the coolant earlier, and its still at the same level. oil looks like its going to need a change soon but it isnt milky. started it up and it was running at only 2k but its cold, no white smoke. so i took it for a drive around the block, when i got back in my driveway and put it in N its bogging from 2500 to 1000 and then back to 2500 over and over again. and white smoke was coming out of the exhaust again. WTFFF DID I DO TO IT
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

when u blow a hg the oil doesnt always get milky. if your blowing mad smoke outta your exhaust theres coolant going into your cylinders. replace the HG it only takes an hour.

and to the guy who ssed it was a thermostat, your an idiot. how would a thermostat cause an engine to blow white smoke?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

yeah but since i have had the car, the blowers have only turned on 2 times. the idle is very bad now as well. Would a head gasket cause my idle issues?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

also run a compression test if you still aren't sure, and you can do the bubble test in your coolant after you've filled it up (only do this when the engine is cold), start the engine with the pressure cap loose, then remove it and watch for bubbles coming up in the coolant. this can come from exhaust gasses venting into the coolant system.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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A leak down test will tell you for sure what your problem is. A head gasket is easy to change, so just pull the head off and see what the gasket looks like. If it's good still, then it's probably your rings, but even then you'd have to replace the gasket.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

i took it for a drive and it seems to run fine besides the fact its smoking. doesnt feel sluggish but i only drove around the block and i didnt really get on it.
would a head gasket cause my car to idle bad? i dont get paid till friday so i would rather figure it out before i just throw money at the prob.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

How long has it been since the head gasket has been changed? Good maintainance may be wanting to change it and the timing belt.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

Originally Posted by tony7626
i took it for a drive and it seems to run fine besides the fact its smoking. doesnt feel sluggish but i only drove around the block and i didnt really get on it.
would a head gasket cause my car to idle bad? i dont get paid till friday so i would rather figure it out before i just throw money at the prob.
well if any amount of coolent is leaking in, its going to run like crap, or not run at all
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

HAHAHA "its the thermostat bro" what an Epic fail.. but on a serious note just take the head off it only take 45min-1hr
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

Don't drive it anymore, replace the HG and get your head checked, it might warp from overheating
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

What the compression on each cylinder?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

white smoke means you buring coolant which is a good indicator thats its from your headgasket
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

Rarely will you see water in the oil on a honda, it almost always goes into the cylinders.
Another thing to look at is the amount of pressure building in the radiator. Take the cap off (when its cold) start it up and let it run if you see smoke coming out then its real bad.

Yes a blown headgasket is letting air into the coolant system and it is making your car not idle/bog/not run right. Hell sometimes its a pain in the *** to get them started just to get them pulled in the shop.

When you do the head gasket (and it sounds like thats what it is) make sure you replace your t-stat, take the head to a napa or other machine shop and have it leak checked and surfaced, as well as taking a straightedge and checking the block. Make sure the surfaces are clean before you set the head back on. And while your at it...find out why the hell it was overheating in the first place...fans, temp sensor for the fans, relay, fuse etc.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Default Re: fried rings? or headgasket?

My dx had this same problem. oil never had any milk shake going on, but it would constantly put out white smoke (especially on hot days) and would over heat. only thing that gave it away was the nasty smell coming from my radiator, and the fact that it was blowing white smoke on a 95 degree day. i threw every part at that car but a new h/g too. replace the h/g, check for warpage, and since it's a CHEAP part replace the thermostat too. good insurance.
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