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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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i have a 90 dx hatch with a b16 swap. well had a code for the crank angle sensor and turns out i forgot to switch the tps wires. that fixed the cel. but now when i punch it it bogs and wants to stall at WOT. if i feather the gas itll accelerate. i tried switching the tps wires back and it still does it. swapped out tps, map, 02, checked ignition timing...all good.

i did recently slap on an exhaust i took off my 90 si when i installed a catback. decided to use it so i could pass emissions(which it failed high c02 and hydro carbons) clogged cat maybe???
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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no CEL? it sounds like its giving too much fuel then the engine should have. does vtec engage? at what rpm range does it bog down at WOT?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Assuming timing is good, and fuel pressure is good, it sounds like a weak ignition system. I had a similar problem when my msd coil went bad on me. As you increase load, the fuel system adds more fuel and a weak ignition system cannot ignite the mixture. Check your ignition system - plugs, wires, distributor cap, coil.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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no CEL? it sounds like its giving too much fuel then the engine should have. does vtec engage? at what rpm range does it bog down at WOT?

vtec kicks in fine but i have to blip the throttle to get it to rev that high. if i slowly press the gas pedal it will rev up but if i floor it the engine bogs and sputters.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Assuming timing is good, and fuel pressure is good, it sounds like a weak ignition system. I had a similar problem when my msd coil went bad on me. As you increase load, the fuel system adds more fuel and a weak ignition system cannot ignite the mixture. Check your ignition system - plugs, wires, distributor cap, coil.

could it be the other way around? ignition good but not enough fuel? ive replaced the fuel filter, fuel press is good but i swiped my injectors from an ls in the junkyard...maybe its a pooped injector
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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map sensor maybe?
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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It could be a lack of fuel pressure/volume. How long ago did you swap injectors? If you swapped injectors and then it started bogging - maybe its the injectors? Try your old fuel injectors and see what happens.

To test fuel pressure, you really need to test it under load. Hook up a fuel pressure guage to the fuel rail and duct tape the guage to the windshield. Go for a drive and see if the pressure drops.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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It could be a lack of fuel pressure/volume. How long ago did you swap injectors? If you swapped injectors and then it started bogging - maybe its the injectors? Try your old fuel injectors and see what happens.

To test fuel pressure, you really need to test it under load. Hook up a fuel pressure guage to the fuel rail and duct tape the guage to the windshield. Go for a drive and see if the pressure drops.
well i didnt have injectors to begin with....started from scratch with this build so i just swiped some from the junkyard to get it running. i never noticed the bogging untill i slapped on the exhaust. i drove it up and down my road a few times with just the header and no exhaust... i didnt really ever get on it but it never bogged like it is now
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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well today i advanced timing via the dizzy all the way and it has improved but still sputters and bogs out. is there an easy way to check an injector? i have a few layin round that i could swap out if i found a bad one
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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well today i advanced timing via the dizzy all the way and it has improved but still sputters and bogs out. is there an easy way to check an injector? i have a few layin round that i could swap out if i found a bad one

run the car at idle disconect injectors 1 by 1 if it idles down its fine if u disconect nd see no change that injectors bad
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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run the car at idle disconect injectors 1 by 1 if it idles down its fine if u disconect nd see no change that injectors bad
thats a good idea thanks....ill give it a try
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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well that eliminates the injectors being the problem i guess....idled down everytime i unhooked one. gotta be the damn timing. ok, the white mark on the crank pulleyis tdc right? maybe the timing light was all f'd up
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Default Re: b16 bogs at WOT

im having the same proble with my swap too i have a 91 civic with a b20 mine tacks out at 4 in every gear......

what can be wrong.....i also tried different ecu's
note: my car used to be duel point.....
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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im having the same proble with my swap too i have a 91 civic with a b20 mine tacks out at 4 in every gear......

what can be wrong.....i also tried different ecu's
note: my car used to be duel point.....
what ecu are you running?? any check engine light?
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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sounds like the same problem my car has, i think its the fuel pump in mine because if you clamp my return hose off the bogg goes away.. try that and see what ya get.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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are you using a chipped ECU? it could be giving it too much fuel at WOT, but it would have to be a lot to make it bog down... and for timing, the white mark is TDC when you align your cams and crank, but when the engine is running, use a timing light to get the ignition timing on the red mark.
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Need help with this
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Need help with this!! Same thing expect mine actually dies & when full throttled. It is up on stands haven't tried 2 drive it.

I have checked what was advised up in here but nothing still present my bogging/dying issues.

Someone can help or relate please pm me or get me any info 2 a mechinac don't have much time I'm a workalic. LoL
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Originally Posted by hatchet_honda
i have a 90 dx hatch with a b16 swap. well had a code for the crank angle sensor and turns out i forgot to switch the tps wires. that fixed the cel. but now when i punch it it bogs and wants to stall at WOT. if i feather the gas itll accelerate. i tried switching the tps wires back and it still does it. swapped out tps, map, 02, checked ignition timing...all good.

i did recently slap on an exhaust i took off my 90 si when i installed a catback. decided to use it so i could pass emissions(which it failed high c02 and hydro carbons) clogged cat maybe???
did you try a new o2 or a used one. i would get a new oem one from honda.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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im having the same problem to but when i pull my plugs the look lean but it acts like its fouling plugs and i checked my injectors and when i put new plugs in it runs fine
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Disconnect one plug wire at a time, it should miss fairly bad. If you have good spark you could have a bad cylinder. My A6 motor is doing the same thing.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 11:07 PM
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sorry to dig up an old thread but what was the issue? As it sounds exactly the same as what ive got going on?

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