i'm doing my H23VTEC and i'm using oil squirters, for no other reason than i want to, so please shy away from telling me not to.

so i put the squirters in, set the crank in, got everything to clear, and everything was good to go. so i then put my pistons and rods in, bolted them all on, so now the crank pistons and rods are in the block, with 4 main caps sitting on there not bolted in, and the #4 main cap or whatever out waiting for thrust washers. so i was double checking everything today and i was turning the crank, and i noticed at one point i had resistance. so i spun it the opposit way, and at about 180* i had resistance again. turns out my oil squirters are hitting again. so i spent all day re-bending them and whatnot (a real bitch with everything in, BTW) and got everything to where it didn't hit. so i was checking the 1 and 4 cylinders, they were good, spun it around, 2 and 3 were good. so just to double check i spun it around again and 1 and 4 both hit! now what is moving? i have the old thrust washers in to keep the crank located, and i'm just not understanding what keeps moving so that i'll be on my 3rd time moving the squirters. the rods are bolted down to the crank. the squirters are bolted down to the block, and the crank isn't moving up and down, but if it were, it would pull it away from the squirters if it moved at all anyways.

i'm about to go work on them again to make them clear for the 3rd time, but if it keeps doing this i'm kinda reserved about running them, since i don't know whats moving.

any insight?

 

so i just went at it again, had everything perfect, rotated everything around, my grandparents came out and i showed them, and the damn thing hit!

it was perfect, everything was perfect, nothing was hitting. i had it perfect, moved the crank as far left as it would go, perfect, nothing hit. moved the crank all the way right, perfect, nothing hit. all the bolts on the squirters we tight, it was, for all intents and purposes, ready to be buttoned up. fast forward a couple minutes where the engine hadn't been touched, rotate it around, and it hits. i just do not understand.

am i missing something? am i going crazy?

 

are they hitting on the thrust side of the piston or on the underside of the crown? is your piston to wall so loose that the pistons are rocking back and forth?

is this going in the 3G

 

Just a thought, trim an inch off the oil squirters, so they aren't as long.

Also when you are bending them, heat them up with a torch or a heat gun, so they bend easier, then throw them in cold water so they set in the same place that you have bent them in.

 

Well...don't run them. They're aimed at a particular position on the pistons. If you bend them, they're not aimed properly anymore are they.

 

fortunately i'm smart enough to re-aim them

and i'm not having a problem bending them, i'm having a problem with something moving. and i doubt that it would be a memory metal of any kind, its just steel isn't it? i figured if i bent it cold it wouldn't move back on me, is that whats happening?

and Jacob, i'm not sure what you mean. they're not hitting the piston at all, they're hitting the crank, where the rod connects.like, you have the rod journal, and then the crank comes to a somewhat sharp point and then gradually goes down to the centerline of the crank. well on maybe 1/8 inch from that sharp point is where it is hitting. i'll take a picture tomorrow to accurately describe it. but its not hitting the pistons at all, its hitting the crank. but i just figured if i bent it and it didn't spring back immediately i didn't think it would gradually return back. since i don't hear ove anyone's engine heating up and the squirters re-forming back to their originaly position like most memory metals.

and yes, in the 3G. ACL has been killing me on parts, but all i need is the thrust washers, put everything together, throw it in the car. make all the lines for the oil pressure gauge and then just wait for blake to come down and tune it and we'll be good to go.

 

ok, i think i got ya now. so you could move the crank side to side with no thrust washers in and it wasn't hitting the squirters but when you center it up it hits?

 

no, i had the old thrust washers in the entire time to keep it centered. and they're good, so whatever normal thrust clearance is, the movement is barely perceptible. but i would push it back and forth through the thrust anyways just to be sure. and either way, it would be good either way, it would be set, it would be 100%....AND THEN IT WOLD HIT!!