i know i need new injectors and a fuel pump. thats a given. but my bro says on a b16a i shouldnt boost it for a daily driver. should i? i just want to run a max boost of maybe 10pounds. hes saying i need stronger pistons and all that stuff. the only reason i would beileve him is because hes been working on cars for YEARS, but not on hondas. would i be safe after replaceing those 2 things. would i need a new valvetrain? ps. i already have new valve springs and retains cause of the ITR cams i put in. please help me. i think he doesnt know what hes saying. he dont want me to be faster than his 350z(even though i am already)

 

i ran 10 pounds on my stock b16a fine have fun

 

What kind of response is that?

OP,

You need to search, search, SEARCH. That is the best advice anyone can give you. You can have someone tell you exactly what you need and exactly how to do it, but you need to learn for yourself to understand things completely. There are a lot of people out there who are boosting on stock motors. The trick with that is only making the power your motor can handle before things start to break (like a rod). If you only want daily relaible power, you could get away with a stock block, with some of the upgrades you described, like higher flowing injectors and fuel pump. Most importantly do not forget a tune. THAT will be the deciding factor of whether or not your ride is reliable.

 

you should be ok on 10 pounds just make sure to get a good tune.
getting pistons and rods would be a good thing, just for peace of mind but is not required, i have seen many b16s run 10 pounds and be fine for years.
your valve train is fine.
i just cant say TUNE enough, hondata would be best.
its expensive but has room to grow,

 

people run piece of **** stock single cams turbo.. why not a b16? its alot stronger.. as long as you get it tuned..

 

If you want to do it right you need stronger internals, seals, pistons, springs, and so on. Head the forced induction forum area.

 

Everyone i have heard has had much success on many different products and many people i have heard from have come into running into alot of problems that's why you have to search search search search and make a decision your self.

 

People... 10lbs of boost produces different amounts of power with different sized turbos. You can't simply say "10lbs is fine." You have to know the turbo size to say that.
Example: 10lbs of boost on a huge turbo probably is going to produce more power than that engine can handle in stock form.

What you want to limit yourself by is how much HP the stock engine can handle, not psi.


Just because it's a single cam doesn't make it a piece of ****. There's a lot of turbo single cams out there that will tear you a new *******.

 

calm down.. dont need to get all defensive.. I mean if you own one then maybe thats the reason why your so pissed.. anyways what Im trying to say is that if people boost single cam 1.6 liter motors for dd then why shouldnt he be able to boost a 1.6 liter without any problems? you happy now? and didnt I say piece of **** STOCK single cam turbo? you think a STOCK single cam turbo is better built and will out run a built gsr?? or maybe a STOCK gsr turbo? comon now.. think before you post!

 

I am calm. I own a D-series and it's kind of annoying to see their potential greatly underestimated by B-series owners who think that a D-series is a POS and then spreading that misinformation around the web.

I get your point, you just didn't have to call it a piece of ****, because it's not.

Also, a lot of people have safely boosted a stock D-series to 250WHP. Tune is key. Think before you post!


EDITED so that everyone can see his edit, to further clarify this conversation.

 

I said piece of **** STOCK single cam.. I never said built.. you need to reread my first post

 

I replied before you edited this last post. Yea, don't act like I didn't notice that.

 

Safely boost??? a stock to 250whp?? how long will that last? You dont think i can take the same b16 or b18c motors and boost it for more power and will last longer than a stock single cam? yeah and if they can boost a stock d series to 250whp then why cant they boost a b16??? thats his question isnt it?

 

No... you were busy editing.. ask you can see I copied your quote before you even added those other sentences..

 

The reason my quote of you has your entire post in it is because right after you edited, I saw it and edited my post to include it.

And yea, 250WHP. It's surprising but it's true.

Of course you can boost the B16. I'm just trying to defend the D here.

 

then why are we arguing? I said STOCK single cam turbo and you meant I said built single cam.. I never said BUILT.. I SAID STOCK GODAMIT!! a STOCK single cam turbo is not better than a STOCK b16 turbo and that was the reason why I said why not boost a B series if a STOCK piece of **** single cam can take it.. and dont tell me STOCK single cams aren't pieces of **** otherwise we wouldnt be doing swaps from day one and that is what hondas are known for..

 

A stock internals turbo D-series isn't a piece of ****. Like I said, many people have turbo'd them safely to 250WHP with a really good tune.

Of course the B-series is a little better. But is it really better enough to justify spending $2500 on a swap plus the cost of turbo'ing it just to be a little bit better than a stock internals turbo D?

 

its not better.. its all about reliability.. B series are made for higher reving and taking a beating.. single cams are made to save gas... they are not built for high reving.. theres a difference.. you can boost any motor to their potential but it all comes down to reliability even if cost is low, I rather invest my money in something that will last..

 

You could spend less money than a B16 swap by just building the D-series and then it would be more reliable than the turbo stock internals B series and make more power.

EDIT: To clarify, i'm not saying that it's a bad idea to swap in a B-series. Just defending the D-series.

 

but the thing is that not everyone is a builder.. thats the problem.. there are serious builders out there and then there are the majority of the honda crowd who wants to go the easy route... and

ps. Im not trying to beat down on the single cams but people usually buy and build single cams because they dont want to spend alot of money.. its as simple as that.. if money wasnt an issue would you invest in a K series or a built D series?

 

True. I think if you want power out of a Honda you should have to work for it though, not just take the easy way out. Unfortunately most people are just going to swap in another engine and completely ignore the potential of the engine they already have, because they don't have the know-how to do it or don't want to learn or try.

 

yes, and if everyone was Bisimoto then we wouldnt be doing B,H, or K swaps..

 

I boosted my 2000 Si..Nothing major..a greddy kit runnin 8lbs, and something has gone wrong! Been tuned with hondata, upgraded to 310 injectors. Puttin 235 to the wheels and now I'm blowin the dipstick out and sprayin oil when I really get into the boost. I should know in a couple of days how bad it is (doing a leakdown, will let me know if I HAVE to rebuild). I suggest to build the bottom end 1st! Was gonna do it slowly but now I may have no choice!!

 

i know i have to get it tuned, and im researching. thats why i posted here as well. thanks for your input. much apperciated