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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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I have a 96 civic with a b16 swap, with basic bolt ons and p72 ecu. It has aem cam gears which are curently set to 0. What would a basic setup be? I was reading alot of people are advancing the intake by 2 degrees and retarding the exhaust 2 degrees does that seem good, or what would some other opions be? I simpily dont have money for a dyno anytime soon.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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what camshafts are you running them with????
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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i believe there just stock but not 100% sure
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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free bump i like to know also
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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According to some really old thrends I found advancing the intake 2 and retading the exhaust 2 degrees gave a guy 22whp, I no that seems like alot to believe, but if I could even get 10 bhp out of that set up I would be happy, My car fells kinda slow for a b16 swaped hatch, and my clutch is also felling a little weak to , but then again i also have a modded turbo 1g talon.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

anyone else, i would like to know the same thing but with a gsr with stock cams.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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its hard for me to belive no one else has a comment to this
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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Ya really I mean someone should no something lol.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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According to some really old thrends I found advancing the intake 2 and retading the exhaust 2 degrees gave a guy 22whp, I no that seems like alot to believe, but if I could even get 10 bhp out of that set up I would be happy, My car fells kinda slow for a b16 swaped hatch, and my clutch is also felling a little weak to , but then again i also have a modded turbo 1g talon.
b16 hatches are mid to low 14 sec cars thats why it seems slow
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

Well a 14 sec car is a stock v8 mustang and I dont think im faster then that, but then again I may be I never raced one
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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V8 Mustangs are slow.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

i probably wouldn't bother too much with fiddling with your cam gears if you have stock cams. at 0,0 the Honda set them up quite well already.

also note that any time you change your intake cam gear setting, you've messed with your timing and will have to check it/set it again with a timing gun.

think about how the cams work in relation to when they open and close. if you advance your intake 2 degrees and retard your exhaust 2 degrees, you are allowing for more overlap. the downside is, you may be bleeding off compression in the process.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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Cam gears should be tuned on a dyno, where you can actually see if the change made a difference, and if it was an improvement or made it worse. Internet cam gear settings are sketchy at best.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Ok i guess stock setting it is for now but my car just seems so slow for some reason
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny21634@aol.com
Ok i guess stock setting it is for now but my car just seems so slow for some reason
im sure the gsr ecu isnt helping you when u have a b16. 10 whp from moving gears on a stock cam? yea right.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

o well it was worth a shot
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

Would a chipped p28 ecu be better for my setup
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

Originally Posted by Danny21634@aol.com
Would a chipped p28 ecu be better for my setup
it may be better matched for your B16 than the P72 at this moment, but it all depends how the tune is on the P28.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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a stock p30 computer with a obd2a-obd1 conversion harness would prob be the best idea for you. u can't squeeze all this power out of something basic. chipped computers are garbage.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

Well my car is obd2 right now, I just bidded on a stock b16 ecu out of a 99 si b16, so will that plug in and work as of right now or do i need another conversion harness, or should i still go obd1
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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si ecu will not plug into your 96-98 harness.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

What harness adapter will I need
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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if your gonna use an si ecu u need obd2a-obd2b harness. if you have a imported(jdm) motor
your gonna have more problems using that ecu. you'll get cel's for crank sensor,oil pressure switch, and 2nd o2. converting to obd 1 is easiest but a step backwards if your trying to get a inspection sticker.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

So to go obd1 I need to get an obd2 to obd1 harness. Then what ecu will I use? a p30 for obd1 or a chipped p28?
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Default Re: cam gear adjustments on b16a

Originally Posted by Danny21634@aol.com
So to go obd1 I need to get an obd2 to obd1 harness. Then what ecu will I use? a p30 for obd1 or a chipped p28?
If your car is a '96-'98 civic you want an OBD2a-OBD1 conversion harness, with a chipped P28, and a B16 basemap. If you car is newer it's OBD2b, the years they changed are different for models other than civics.
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