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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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Default short shifters what does everybody think of them?????

do they really mess up syncros or is that just a myth and does anybody use them for drag racing?????
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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i have one and i just like the feel of a shorter shift, i really don't think it helps or hurts.
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 01:34 AM
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pointless.
why shift faster than the rpm drop.
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 09:31 AM
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pointless.
why shift faster than the rpm drop.
I find it hard to beleive they are pointless. Why would they made be made?
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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in my opinion, I dont use them because of increased risk for misshifts. Maybe thats me. but the feel is so close that I may mess up on the shifting and blow up the motor.
I like the stock feel since I can tell where the the shifter should go.
Wil
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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i dont know when i first got my car i just had the stock shifter on and i put the short shifter on and now i love it , it feels so much better then befor. i can actually drive ok now haha
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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I have a NS Short shifter in my Accord. I DID NEED ONE and it did shorten the shifts quite a bit. With my old shifter, it almost felt like I was rowing a boat!
BTW..Every Hundreths of a second counts in drag racing, and Less Distance traveled = Less time to get there

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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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i think on street driving, short shifters are good. At the track, when costly transmissions and motors are at risk, you want to make sure you are in gear for sure when you shift that fast.

i've see so many blown motors due to misshifts and I think as far as racing on the track, keep the stock one.
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Default Re: short shifters what does everybody think of them????? (exospeedAMcrx)

in my opinion, I dont use them because of increased risk for misshifts. Maybe thats me. but the feel is so close that I may mess up on the shifting and blow up the motor.
I like the stock feel since I can tell where the the shifter should go.
Wil
Please be quiet. Your above statement makes no sense.
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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pointless.
why shift faster than the rpm drop.

I find it hard to beleive they are pointless. Why would they made be made?
why do they make touring wings or altezzas?
look if you have a lightweight crank, ultralight racing flywheel. then i understand why you need to shift faster but if your shifting in .2 seconds and it takes .4 seconds for the rpm's to fall your just gonna do damage over time shifting so fast.
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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I can shift plenty fast with my stock shifter..
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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I dont like the feel of shortshifters. I like stock with the energy bushings to firm it up.....
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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ok I'll be quiet... it doesnt make sense because you probably don't have many passes and experience with Drag racing.

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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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look if you have a lightweight crank, ultralight racing flywheel. then i understand why you need to shift faster.
Thats all I was saying. They're not pointless when your RPMs drop quickly.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Default Re: short shifters what does everybody think of them????? (LSDelSol)

I like the standard shifter as it gives me more leverage on the gears. But thats just me.......
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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I can shift plenty fast with my stock shifter..
Yep, I used to like the "feel" of a short shifter, but that was just cruising slow on the street. I find it much easier and prefer the feel of the stock shift lever at the track, however. I do use ES bushings for a firmer feel.

I do think cables shift mechanisms (Accord, Prelude) could benefit from a shorter throw. Those things stock feel like truck shifters
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Default Re: short shifters what does everybody think of them????? (eddiecut)

From the words of Kenny Tran when I was at JoTech...

There is no need for a short shifter and I do not use one.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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I can shift plenty fast with my stock shifter..
ditto
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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Its a matter of preference. I like the feel of a short throw although, it may increase the chance of a misshift. If you are gonna get one get the skunk.
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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Default Re: short shifters what does everybody think of them????? (exospeedAMcrx)

in my opinion, I dont use them because of increased risk for misshifts. Maybe thats me. but the feel is so close that I may mess up on the shifting and blow up the motor.
I like the stock feel since I can tell where the the shifter should go.
Wil
My friend has a 2000 Si with intake n exhaust...he raced a 240sx and almost messed up his car by misshifting...
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 05:28 AM
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Default Re: short shifters what does everybody think of them????? (LSDelSol)

I find it hard to beleive they are pointless. Why would they made be made?


then why is APC still around? Thier pointless....
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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They reduce the shift rang of motion....that is there point. Doesnt mean they improve your cars performance tho.....
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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Default Re: short shifters what does everybody think of them????? (b16a4me)

oh boy... not this thread again!

Short Shifters do not kill trannies or synchros but the submoron shifting like a riceboy on crack will kill synchros with his mad fast shifting skills. I have been using a C's shifter for 5 years without any problems.

On a side note! I have an extra C's shifter up for grabs. $150 plus shipping! It's an EF style (just like the one in my Teg) so you will need to add spacers on each side of the shifter when used in a EG/DC.
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