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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Well here's the story, i needed to get my 98 front end painted as long as my 98 rear bumper for my Integra. One of my buddy was doing the work for me"not for free". So we went to Kc autopaint and had them match my car color. On my driverside it says color code R-81. Which is Milano Red for my understanding. So the dude was like i cant match that. I need more information. So i gave him the my last 4 digits of my cousins car which is original Milano red since mine was orignial black. So he matched it and everything with whatever technical stuff he was using "he" (the dude working at kc). so it looked like it matched in all. So i bought the quart of paint and when my buddy got done painting it you can tell that there is a big difference. The front end was brighter then the rest of the car. Looking at a distance you can tell it is two different colors. So i look at the can of paint and it says Cardinal Red. So now im stuck with my car with two different reds and it sucks ***...just thought i complain about it since people said that KC was one of the best around town. Maybe i should of looked at the name on the paint of quart first but cant do nothing now...it looked like it matched up good but dont know how it turned out this way...my buddy that painted it said he put hella coats on there but didnt seem to work....but yeah just wanted to let everyone know how shitty it is.ahaha i'd post pictures if i can get the correct code on here to let me post pics....but yeah thanks for reading...any inputs would be good.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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hahah pretty funny actually. If you knew what you were doing the first thing I would have done would be to check the paint color by dabbing a little bit on a painted surface of the car and see how it dries in comparison to the old paint. Then I would have looked at the color code and color name. Leave painting to ppl who know what there doing if your going to complain
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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hahah pretty funny actually. If you knew what you were doing the first thing I would have done would be to check the paint color by dabbing a little bit on a painted surface of the car and see how it dries in comparison to the old paint. Then I would have looked at the color code and color name. Leave painting to ppl who know what there doing if your going to complain
well thats what we did....but it still didnt come out right once it was painted.....i guess everyone aint perfect at what they do...but oh well for now its aight...
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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1psi can change a color. You should have sprayed a test card/panel at different psi's (at the gun) and recorded your info. Gun settings are huge. On top of that, the paint your matching is 9 or more years old. (most likely)
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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your gettin way to technical with this. its simple as your car is milano red and you painted the bumpers cardinal red. ive painted plenty of bumpers with the same color code as the car and sometimes they dont match unless you blend it. if your car is 10 years old alot of the time fresh paint doesnt match.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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If the KC paint guy had enough experience under his belt he could have mixed it to match the old faded paint no problem. With these sort of things I find that the oldest geezer in the shop will do the best work. Experience goes a long way.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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actually my paint job on my car is still pretty new...i was in an accident awhile back and just never got to fixing it....but overall it just didnt turn out as what i was thinking it would....and yea it is simple stating that the guy gave me cardinal red instead of milano red after indicating i wanted milano...but oh well lesson learned...
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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would it be a hassle to ask you friend to respray them with milano red?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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he would have to scuff the clear coat off again...which i dont want to use anymore money at the moment...we had to buy paint two different times because the first quart ran out..second time mixing it was a lady and im not sure if she mixed it right...so questions lead to more questions
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Hey buddy if your friend had blended to the adjacent panel then you wouldn't had notice the difference in color. Even if the color is little off, blending will hide the difference in color.

Bumper color will always be off from the body of vehicle.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by VAAJ
Hey buddy if your friend had blended to the adjacent panel then you wouldn't had notice the difference in color. Even if the color is little off, blending will hide the difference in color.

Bumper color will always be off from the body of vehicle.
not true
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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you cant give info off another car man. the reason they wanted to know was to match the paint to your car. the vin # tells when and where your car was painted so they can match it to a batch number of paint used at the factory. thats not their fault you gave wrong info. plus you should have blended everything to make it match
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 93monsterbubble
you cant give info off another car man. the reason they wanted to know was to match the paint to your car. the vin # tells when and where your car was painted so they can match it to a batch number of paint used at the factory. thats not their fault you gave wrong info. plus you should have blended everything to make it match
well my paint and his paint are the same so i didnt think it would matter...its just that my vin would indicate that my car color is black since thats what it orinially was...and even though i didnt give him my vin number...he went out and matched it with this one thing he was using and still didnt get it right...but oh well...people still comment me that it looks good..LOL
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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wow..............theres a **** load of plants that paint oem hondas an the 11th digit of your vin refers to your color an where it was painted. You cant give them a vin off another car an expect it to match it doesnt work that way. next time try an roll it on an it might look better with your eyes closed. amateurs hahaha sorrry
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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well obviously a VIN has nothing to do with a car getting repainted...so that wouldnt help it out huh? as of how bad i might think it is..aha it might look better then what you've ever owned...ahahah

Moderators please close this thread...end of discussion...
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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ha sorry for comin off like that but its what i do. an the vin does have something to do with it i have a ppg computer sitting in front of me. An believe me im damn sure ive owned some pretty nice cars, many of them an built a few magazine cars also. sorry im just tryin to help you out but its cool my cars all match
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by reDel
ha sorry for comin off like that but its what i do. an the vin does have something to do with it i have a ppg computer sitting in front of me. An believe me im damn sure ive owned some pretty nice cars, many of them an built a few magazine cars also. sorry im just tryin to help you out but its cool my cars all match
sounds good..my car is still sexy
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by flycatcher
its not the kc autopaint, milano red has a tint into that paint,,so its a basecoat,tint,and clear coat.I work for ppg and asked for the 3 stage milano red and should match the paint.
hmm weird...i guess i should of asked HT first...
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:44 AM
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its a solid red w no metalics or pearls, why in the hell would there be a tri-coat formula for it. people an their theories make me laugh. haha if you work for ppg you should be fired.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mike9571
its a solid red w no metalics or pearls, why in the hell would there be a tri-coat formula for it. people an their theories make me laugh. haha if you work for ppg you should be fired.
hahahaha served!
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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hahahaha served!
LOL funny
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mike9571
its a solid red w no metalics or pearls, why in the hell would there be a tri-coat formula for it. people an their theories make me laugh. haha if you work for ppg you should be fired.
I think they are referring to the undercoat. Some of these basecoats are so transparant sometimes it calls for an undercoat that is similar in color to the base its so you dont use a whole quart paintin a bumper or whatever like the op's painter did.... you should only have to put 4 coats at most

edit: I just looked up milano red and it does call for the undercoat.

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