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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Just wondering if anyone knows how to get the gas light and door is open lights to work for the jdm eg6 cluster becasue I heard it could be done so if any one knows how to do it let me know thank you.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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i would guess you wire the door open light into the interior light circuit and as for the fuel light, i think other year civics in the u.s. had them, you can prolly take the fuel pump assembly from them and make it work. thats where i would start if it were my car.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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yea well what car do you have? I wish any of that **** worked on my car. Well at least the door light and ****. My car doesnt seem to know when the door is open. Well at least the light never comes on in the interior or on the cluster. But the **** will still beep if the keys are in there. So iono.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Wire the door trigger to the light on the EG6 cluster just like the alarm. You may need to look up a wire diagramfor that cluster though so you know what pin you run it to. As for fuel, I haven't a clue.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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use a door switch, the switch that tells your dome light to come on. power and ground. all honda circuits are ground circuits, so all you need is a signal wire, always hot on 12v to run power from the cluster to the switch, so when the fuel door is open, the light will be on, when its closed it will be off. and make sure your door light switches are wired up properly and make sure you have them.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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AFAIK, no 92-95 CDM/USDM Civics were wired to have a Low Fuel Light sensor. However, my own research shows me that the fuel level sender unit with low fuel sensor from a CDM/USDM 96 or 97 4dr is the same (or similar) Honda p/n as what was installed on certain overseas market models (KQ, KG, KE, etc.) for 92-95 Civics with the 11.9Gal gas tanks, the equivalent of CDM/USDM DX, Si, EX & LX. This would then be a matter of a direct replacement of your own level sender unit, and run the single wire to the gauge cluster. Wire colour is GRN/RED, and is located on the 'angled' plug on the left as you look at the cluster from the back, pin A7 (if you got pigtails with the cluster you would see it). Could be a really neat upgrade. I intend to try it out come warmer weather.

As for the door indicators, my guess would be that you have to tap in to the dome light wires and extend them to the cluster. Conveniently, you can find these as they enter the ICU from behind the under-dash fuse box, and match up the wire colours from behind the gauge cluster. (These might be different between LHD and RHD cars, but I doubt it.)
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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yea well what car do you have? I wish any of that **** worked on my car. Well at least the door light and ****. My car doesnt seem to know when the door is open. Well at least the light never comes on in the interior or on the cluster. But the **** will still beep if the keys are in there. So iono.
Okay well I have this cluster

On this car.

It's a Spoon EG6 cluster on a 1993 Civic SI
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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If i remember only the JDM 4door clusters have the door indicators. Im planning on using a fuel level sensor from a 96 and up civic. If anyone needs diagrams i can get them for you.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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Default Re: JDM EG6 cluster fuel light and door open light ????

No, 2drs have them too, however the cluster the OP has posted does not have these door open indicators. OP: do you mean the trunk light?

Possibly, this post will help?

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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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Yes that's what I meant. The trunk indicator. The cluster you have is for the JDM SIR II from 1995. I have the Spoon one from 1993.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Icon2 Re: JDM EG6 cluster fuel light and door open light ????

The trunk light is in the same location on your cluster as on a stock CDM/USDM cluster with a tachometer, so the problem does not require any splicing and rewiring, as in the post I linked to above.

My guess would be to start with the obvious first: blown bulb. Have you checked this? Swap it with a known good and try it out. Normal operation involves the light turning on when the trunk is open and the key is turned to IG1.

Make sure the contacts for the bulb are good, on the cluster circuit board. Test with a multimeter.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Okay got the trunk is open light to come on and it was a bulb like was predicted. Now all I need is the fuel light. I picked up a fuel pump housing from the junkyard today and now my question is will if fit on without a problem? It's been raining so I won't be able to do it till this weekend or whenever it stops raining.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Cool... good progress.

OK, so about the the fuel light. The next details are a bit complicated, and experimental, so bear with me. I will help you as much as I can.

The part you need is not the Fuel Pump, it is the Fuel Level Sender Unit, Honda calls this a "FUEL METER UNIT". They are can be seen in illustration numbers 24 and 48 in the diagram here (from a 1996 4dr EX "KA (49 state emissions)"). The parts listing can be found at this link.

Generally, one of these two parts are found on 2dr/3dr/4dr 1996-97 ONLY Civics EXCEPT for the 3dr CX. #24 is p/n 37800-S04-C01 and #48 is p/n 37800-S04-305. (The p/n for a 3dr Civic CX is 37800-S04-A01 - which is different, even though all 1996-97 Civic share the same fuel tank.) It is important to note that TWO Fuel Meter Units are listed as part numbers for this 1996 4dr EX "KA (49 state emissions)" car. Well, we know that the car doesn't have two Units in it, so I think this means that the parts are interchangeable.

There are two major pieces to the part: a float, which senses the fuel level, and a 'low fuel level sensor' which sends a signal when your fuel is low. Notice on #48, the little thingy that dips down at a 90 degree angle? That is the 'low fuel level sensor'. I don't know how #24 works, because I can't see where the 'low fuel level sensor' sits - it must be a different design. But, AFAIK, all 1996-2000 Civics have a low fuel level light, so it must be there. I wish somebody could confirm this.

Anyway, getting back to your 1993 Civic SI. The exact Fuel Meter Unit with 'low fuel level sensor' part number that's listed in Overseas market 92-95 Civics as fitting same fuel tank that's in CDM/USDM 92-95 Civic DX/LX/EX/SI and CDM 92-95 Civic CX, is 37800-S04-305. (Note: CDM Civic 92-95 CXs are fitted with the 102hp D15B7 engine, thus we got the larger fuel tank.) IT SHOULD BE A DIRECT REPLACEMENT FIT. As you can see, this part only came on certain 1996-97 4dr Civic models ... not exactly easy to find. In my mind, though, because both Fuel Meter Units are listed as fitting the same Fuel Tank on the same car, and since they all have Low Fuel Level lights, 37800-S04-C01 should also work and will be much easier to find. Incidentally, I also surmise that a Fuel Meter Unit with 'low fuel level sensor' from a 3dr CX will also work because it also bolts to the same Fuel Tank as all the rest, but I really can't be sure about this.

OK, sorry for that lengthy explanation, but I did feel it was necessary to provide the logic to my advice, especially if it means hassle and spending money for someone else.

Here is the summary of what to do:

  • First of all, since you will be working around the fuel tank and there will likely be fumes and fuel spillage, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - do not smoke, or have any open flame. Do not work in an enclosed area. Outside ONLY. Windows OPEN. Do not even start your car if there are fumes - any spark can ignite the fumes in the air and cause an explosion. Safety first!
  • Pull a Fuel Meter Unit from the following cars, listed below in order of preference (My understanding is that these are difficult to remove. Honda has a special tool, but I believe a mallet or hammer and a screwdriver placed the right way will help turn it loose.):
  1. Find a 1996 or 1997 4dr Civic that has p/n 37800-S04-305. This will be a direct OEM replacement, and is exactly what is used in 92-95 Civics overseas.
  2. OR, find a 1996 or 1997 Civic, anything but a CX, that has p/n 37800-S04-C01. I believe this can be substituted safely for the OEM one above.
  3. OR, find a 1996 or 1997 Civic CX, with p/n 37800-S04-A01. Because this fits the same Fuel Tank as all the other models, and still has a 'low fuel level sensor' it can probably also be substituted.
  • Also pull ALL the wiring (GRN/RED) that goes to the gauge cluster, with the pin that attaches at the gauge cluster. This is very important and you need this. IF the pins that attach to a 1996-2000 gauge cluster are different from the pins for a 1992-1995 cluster, steal one of these pins instead and splice them together on re-installation.
  • Get the bulb from the gauge cluster, in case yours is burnt out. It is 3W and is the only one there that has a grey holder.
  • Re-installation is the reverse of removal.

I hope this helps. Keep in mind this is all theoretical on my part, but I have researched extensively, as I intend to perform this modification myself. Please take photos of your progress and post for all to see. Also post about any complications endured.

Good luck.

Last edited by deschlong; May 11, 2009 at 05:43 PM. Reason: Updated with reference to larger fuel tank in CDM CXs.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Any progress, outlawracer?
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Yes, Please any progress?
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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i have a 95 cx hatch and just got my jdm cluster and cannot get my tach to work!

any advice
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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connect the wires? there should be a single wire on the drivers side set of wires under the hood for the tach. At least thats how it is on my EX, i assume all the civics have the same wiring.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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i think the cx has diff wiring then ex
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Default Re: JDM EG6 cluster fuel light and door open light ????

Originally Posted by boca
i think the cx has diff wiring then ex
No, this is incorrect. Your new cluster should be plug and play, regardless of trim level. I think this problem is not a sign of something superficially wrong. Of course I would check all your wiring, but before you do that, try swapping in a known good tach. If it still doesn't work, then you know it's not your cluster, it's something deeper within the bowels of your car. Time to get out the multimeter!

Here is the DIY you need: http://www.superhonda.com/forum/f94/...-420kb-274853/

Good luck.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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I know we've already determined that the OP does not have the door indicators on the cluster, but I figured i'd post this here anyway in case someone finds this thread looking for info. Credit for pic goes to moto27cm @ e-hatch.

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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what part of the cluster is the tach wired on???

my jdm cluster only has 2 plug ins the big one far left and big one on far right....the 2 little ones in the middle are missing....but i dont think those plugins have to do anything with tach
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Default Re: JDM EG6 cluster fuel light and door open light ????

Originally Posted by boca
what part of the cluster is the tach wired on???

my jdm cluster only has 2 plug ins the big one far left and big one on far right....the 2 little ones in the middle are missing.
The signal wire is in one of those 2 large plugs, all civics regardless of trim level are wired for a tach

Originally Posted by boca
...the 2 little ones in the middle are missing....but i dont think those plugins have to do anything with tach
The don't, the yellow one is for the SRS light in the cluster (JDM SiRs didn't have airbags, so obviously there is no SRS light in the cluster) The other one is for cruise control, again the JDM SiRs did not have cruise control, so no cruise light.
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