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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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I have a 1994 accord ex 5 speed. rev limiter at 4500k? it has enough oil. I doubt its the ecu. seems like vtec isn't engaging, that is the range where vtec is suppose to engage and when i rev up to 4500k in all gears it hits a limiter forcing me to switch gears or slow down. any ideas suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 05:01 AM
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Not throwing a CEL?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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Usually the distributor is on it's way out when this happens.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Default Re: 4500k Limiter Vtec not engaging?

Originally Posted by hondarazor23
I have a 1994 accord ex 5 speed. rev limiter at 4500k? it has enough oil. I doubt its the ecu. seems like vtec isn't engaging, that is the range where vtec is suppose to engage and when i rev up to 4500k in all gears it hits a limiter forcing me to switch gears or slow down. any ideas suggestions are greatly appreciated.
You need several conditions met for Vtec to operate:

A) Correct Oil pressure - if you don't have enough oil pressure, it won't engage.
B) Correct Engine Operating Temp
C) Closed Loop ECM, No codes

D) No VSS issues.

If you're dealing with a "Check Engine" lamp, fix it.
Check the Vtec solenoid for the signal from the ECM
If a signal is confirmed check:
Vtec Solenoid for debris (oil ports)
Vtec Control Switch for blockage



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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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^ i'll give that a shot. no CEL light at all
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Default Re: 4500k Limiter Vtec not engaging?

Originally Posted by Ross 2.0
Usually the distributor is on it's way out when this happens.
can't be that i just replaced the whole distributor. It had the 4500k limiter before that as well.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Default Re: 4500k Limiter Vtec not engaging?

When did this problem start? Did you do anything at all to the car prior to the problem appearing?

Barring a wiring or modification issue, it is likely that the VTEC spool valve gasket screen is clogged or the solenoid itself is bad. I've seen a handful of bad spool valves on '98-02 Accords and '02-06 CR-Vs, but not so much on the '94-97s.

Try cleaning the screen on the gasket. If that doesn't work, try a used spool valve from a salvage yard.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Nope not at all. Bought the car from a 35yr old military man 8 months ago. He barely drove it, there could be a possibility that there might be some clogging. But does having a 4500k limiter sound like a Vtec problem?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 4500k Limiter Vtec not engaging?

Originally Posted by hondarazor23
But does having a 4500k limiter sound like a Vtec problem?
Yes.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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do you have a spool valve and/or spool valve gasket screen diagram ? thanks man
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hondarazor23
do you have a spool valve and/or spool valve gasket screen diagram ? thanks man
Refer Post #4
It's direct from Honda Parts Division

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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hmm..after doing some research, switching out or cleaning the spool gasket seems fairly easy. Im going to try that, if still no luck then im going to try switching solenoids.
I hope mine looks like this, that way i could confirm that the clogging is the cause:



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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 4500k Limiter Vtec not engaging?

If that doesnt work, see if you can find a known good ECU to swap out and try!
My car did the same thing except it was at 3500 rpm. Swapped out the ECU and it fixed the problem.
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