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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Default What can cause the toe to be off?

I just realigned my car after lowering it a little more and found my toe in the front left is -18 degrees, while the front right was -0.07 degrees. The rear are similar to the front, 23 degrees, and 13 degrees. Is it normal for these angles to be that off? Whats the cause of this? How would I correct this?

my caster seems fine. My camber is -2.2 to -2.5 all around.

could it be the height of my vehicle? for example, if one side was higher than the other?
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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I just realigned my car after lowering it a little more and found my toe in the front left is -18 degrees, while the front right was -0.07 degrees. The rear are similar to the front, 23 degrees, and 13 degrees. Is it normal for these angles to be that off? Whats the cause of this? How would I correct this?

my caster seems fine. My camber is -2.2 to -2.5 all around.

could it be the height of my vehicle? for example, if one side was higher than the other?
I've bolded the reason that your toe changed.

Toe changes any time ride height changes.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by brandobot89
I just realigned my car after lowering it a little more and found my toe in the front left is -18 degrees, while the front right was -0.07 degrees. The rear are similar to the front, 23 degrees, and 13 degrees. Is it normal for these angles to be that off? Whats the cause of this? How would I correct this?

my caster seems fine. My camber is -2.2 to -2.5 all around.

could it be the height of my vehicle? for example, if one side was higher than the other?
Did you miss some decimal points somewhere? There's no way those readings could be correct, as the wheels would physically look like they're steered in one direction of the other.

I mean, it probably takes 3/4 to 1 full turn of the steering wheel to get an 18-20 degree toe change at the front wheels.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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let me correct it, -.18 degrees in front left, -0.07 degrees front right. rear is .23 degrees, and rear right is .13 degrees.

So my toe is off because one side of the car is higher or lower than the other side? Is that why the reading is really off?

with these toe angles and camber degrees, would i be seeing a lot of camber wear?
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Default Re: What can cause the toe to be off?

You said you re-aligned it after adjusting the ride height. Did you not adjust the toe angles to get it within factory specs?

The front has toe-out, rear has toe-in, which is what Hondas do when they're lowered. You will most likely see wear on the inside edge of the front tires if you leave it like that, but it will be toe wear, not camber wear.

Adjust the toe to factory specs and you'll be good.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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I had it re-aligned, and these are the print-outs they gave me. Are the toe angles fully adjustable with stock parts? I don't have any camber kits and everything on my suspension is stock except for a coilover kit.

Is toe wear worse than camber wear? What does toe wear look like?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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nvm, i'm a freakin retard. I typed out the "before specs"

the "actual" for front left is .02, and front right is .03.
the rear left is .13 degrees and rear right is .13 degrees. does this sound about right?

how many times should i get an alignment within a year? I have unlimited alignments at firestone, so price is not an issue.

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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your actual alignments are fine.

going to firestone repeatedly is fine. but how many times do we need to tell you theyre doing a decent job?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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twice, thanks.

that one was referring to camber, this one i had question about the toe. so i thought i might make one for both.
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