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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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So yeah I just want to drive a reliable daily driver and have fun with it at the same time. This is the setup I have in mind.

1) Injen intake, DC 4-2-1 HEADER, WSII exhaust
2) Skunk2 Intake manifold
3) GSR TRANNY- would be my best mod out of these.
4) OBX CAMSHAFTS
5) Unorthodox pulleys
What cars would i keep up with if i had these mods?

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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fast no, reliable yes.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Save your money and build a decent turbo setup. Putting those parts on is going to net you ~10whp whereas a decent, cheap turbo setup could put you in the high 200s or low 300whp range...
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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What cars would i keep up with if i had these mods?

just drive the car, you dont need to race anyone..............we dont need people to look down on integras and insurance going up
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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1) Injen intake, DC 4-2-1 HEADER, WSII exhaust

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3) GSR TRANNY- would be my best mod out of these.

is prolly all u would need.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SOHC_4dr
fast no, reliable yes.
^^ X2 It probably wont be that fast honestly. Personally i wouldn't worry about the camshafts, and if you really wanted to do them i wouldn't do OBX, i would save up and get something good and not to mention they'll also need to be tuned, so you would have to get an EMS right there, that with the price of a tune would be close to a grand(EMS, ECU, labor for socketing & labor for Dyno tune) . Pulleys i wouldn't worry about. The intake manifold is ok but when i got mine i really didnt notice much (you really won't unless you get a tune (which leads back to the EMS)).

Personally I would just do the intake, header, exhaust, if you want you can do the intake manifold or just have your's bored and port matched, it's pretty much the same thing if not better. Then you can use the money you've saved from the other stuff to invest in a type R tranny, you'll probably FEEL more of a difference from this because: number one you'll get more traction and the gear ratios are set shorter so it feels a little quicker. but thats my opinion.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Forget the intake manifold.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Save your money and build a decent turbo setup. Putting those parts on is going to net you ~10whp whereas a decent, cheap turbo setup could put you in the high 200s or low 300whp range...
X100000, with the money you would spend on the bolt ons and tuning you would have to get to get any type of reasonable power gains, you could easily gather parts for a simple turbo setup which could net you a reasonable amount of gains and then get a great tune..then you will be fast and reliable
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Save your money and build a decent turbo setup. Putting those parts on is going to net you ~10whp whereas a decent, cheap turbo setup could put you in the high 200s or low 300whp range...
Not true -_-
I had a turbo integra, which was barely pushing 250, after it was tuned with a T3/T4 greddy turbo, with the complete kit. Integras are not made for Low compression turbos; and if you leaving it High compression with the turbo it will be sure to blow after a couple months, if that.
Just wait it out, and start off slow. Get some better headers, a straight pipe, the gsr tranny, but then go for looks.. It's not all about speed.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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yea man if you can deside go for looks , you ca never go wrong there... but i know peps who have all engine motor blowing turbo set ups.. idn!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Not true -_-
I had a turbo integra, which was barely pushing 250, after it was tuned with a T3/T4 greddy turbo, with the complete kit. Integras are not made for Low compression turbos; and if you leaving it High compression with the turbo it will be sure to blow after a couple months, if that.
Just wait it out, and start off slow. Get some better headers, a straight pipe, the gsr tranny, but then go for looks.. It's not all about speed.
i agree...with a turbo on a stock gsr bottom end you're really putting alot of stress on it, and depending on how many miles that you have on the car can also be a very big factor in determining if a turbo setup w/out having work done on the bottom end. granted there are alot of people on multiple forums that are running an upwards of 280+ hp on their stock blocks but they're running a really good turbo setup(not Greddy) and not to mention it's a big risk. every motor is different, just because one certain setup works on one of the same car doesn't always mean that it will work on yours.

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Itr
Not true -_-
I had a turbo integra, which was barely pushing 250, after it was tuned with a T3/T4 greddy turbo, with the complete kit. Integras are not made for Low compression turbos; and if you leaving it High compression with the turbo it will be sure to blow after a couple months, if that.
Just wait it out, and start off slow. Get some better headers, a straight pipe, the gsr tranny, but then go for looks.. It's not all about speed.
Wow, if you dont know what you're talking about, please dont post. This is possibly the worst advice i've seen in a while. Please, explain to me the difference between these "high compression" and "low compression" turbos you're talking about. I guess having my own turbo GSR for the past 3 years and moderating the Forced Induction forum for a year and a half shows that i dont know much...

I'd continue tearing apart your post like your "T3/T4 Greddy turbo" which doesn't exist, but that's pointless and won't help this thread.


TO THE OP: You can disregard the above advice in quotations because it's totally incorrect. You can easily turbo your stock block LS and you will have great success with it. I ran my stock block GSR at 10.5psi on a GT3255b on 91 octane and made 315whp/216wtq for 2 years without issues. If that doesn't speak for reliability, i dont know what does. The only reason it didn't last longer is because i decided to build it and make more power.

If you want to waste your money on the NA parts, go for it, but its a bad idea. You're not going to gain much power, but you'll spend a decent amount of money on them. I have told several people that turboing is your only real option if you want the best bang for your buck. Check out the Forced Induction forum and read through the Turbo LS thread...it will give you some great ideas as to what you should do and what others have done in the past. If you need anymore help, ask people in FI because the Civic and Integra forums are usually full of bad advice...
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Schister 66 speaks the truth...

I dont know what the guy was trying to feed you by telling you that ls were not meant for low compression boost....duh they were not mean for boost but they have strong sleeves and are low comp already!

if your compression is good than setup for a turbo for less than 2 grand you should have a good DD 210+ hp but than again thats my idea of a fun DD
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Schister66
Wow, if you dont know what you're talking about, please dont post. This is possibly the worst advice i've seen in a while. Please, explain to me the difference between these "high compression" and "low compression" turbos you're talking about. I guess having my own turbo GSR for the past 3 years and moderating the Forced Induction forum for a year and a half shows that i dont know much...

I'd continue tearing apart your post like your "T3/T4 Greddy turbo" which doesn't exist, but that's pointless and won't help this thread.


TO THE OP: You can disregard the above advice in quotations because it's totally incorrect. You can easily turbo your stock block LS and you will have great success with it. I ran my stock block GSR at 10.5psi on a GT3255b on 91 octane and made 315whp/216wtq for 2 years without issues. If that doesn't speak for reliability, i dont know what does. The only reason it didn't last longer is because i decided to build it and make more power.

If you want to waste your money on the NA parts, go for it, but its a bad idea. You're not going to gain much power, but you'll spend a decent amount of money on them. I have told several people that turboing is your only real option if you want the best bang for your buck. Check out the Forced Induction forum and read through the Turbo LS thread...it will give you some great ideas as to what you should do and what others have done in the past. If you need anymore help, ask people in FI because the Civic and Integra forums are usually full of bad advice...
I've been driving my LS-turbo for almost two years... Iam at 10psi running 261whp 208tq. The LS-T thread has some great info! Major thing is not to cheap out!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Yeah I've wanted to go turbo but how is your gas mileage on your LS TURBO guys? Also I just want my LS motor to run for a long time and I have about 143k miles on it which isnt bad but I want it to go over 200,000 at least. If my engine dies from the turbo I could always get it rebuilt right and its going to feel like a new LS motor?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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i vote suspension as well.... makes you car more fun to drive if done right! Also a High Flow Cat to match your exhaust setup.

AutoX your car and see who you can beat!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LSxVQ35
Yeah I've wanted to go turbo but how is your gas mileage on your LS TURBO guys? Also I just want my LS motor to run for a long time and I have about 143k miles on it which isnt bad but I want it to go over 200,000 at least. If my engine dies from the turbo I could always get it rebuilt right and its going to feel like a new LS motor?
i am not turboed, but i know that gas mileage is affected in the same way a n/a car is. if you are in full or partial boost, your going to be using more fuel. if you have a good tune and keep it updated then you will be reliable no problem. yes you could get it rebuilt and yes, that would make it a new engine.
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On my 98 LS i have a gsr lsd tranny...skunk2 manifold.. fujita cold air intake.. full 2.25" exhaust wit no cat.. and a chipped p72(chipped specifically for an LS)... and i beat gsr's from a dead stop.. and keep up with them from a roll... theres plenty of cars that you would be suprised that you can beat with an LS wit good mods.. only if you dont plan on doin nothin big... i stopped wastin money on my LS and i got a sleeved LS block with 12.5:1 cp pistonsand getttin a vtec head soon
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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good info
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Itr
Not true -_-
I had a turbo integra, which was barely pushing 250, after it was tuned with a T3/T4 greddy turbo, with the complete kit. Integras are not made for Low compression turbos; and if you leaving it High compression with the turbo it will be sure to blow after a couple months, if that.
Just wait it out, and start off slow. Get some better headers, a straight pipe, the gsr tranny, but then go for looks.. It's not all about speed.
wtf are you talking about

lower compression is 'safer' for boost than higher compression, all other things equal, although it makes less power. Higher compression is more power but better chance of detonation = need a good tune and supporting fuel mods.

You probably had some jabroni tuner and stock fuel system with blue *****.

And yes it is all about speed, going fast never goes out of style.

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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndchirp
On my 98 LS i have a gsr lsd tranny...skunk2 manifold.. fujita cold air intake.. full 2.25" exhaust wit no cat.. and a chipped p72(chipped specifically for an LS)... and i beat gsr's from a dead stop.. and keep up with them from a roll... theres plenty of cars that you would be suprised that you can beat with an LS wit good mods.. only if you dont plan on doin nothin big... i stopped wastin money on my LS and i got a sleeved LS block with 12.5:1 cp pistonsand getttin a vtec head soon
How much did that run you? If you dont mind me what's your setup now?
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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you really just need to figure out what your goals are and what your budget is. for the money you can easily build a turbo set up for 2gs.maybe less and break 13s possibly 12s. i see it done all the time.as long as they are done right they can be really reliable. i was thought about boostin my gsr but i decided to go with a N/A build. its just what you prefer.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Itr
Not true -_-
I had a turbo integra, which was barely pushing 250, after it was tuned with a T3/T4 greddy turbo, with the complete kit. Integras are not made for Low compression turbos; and if you leaving it High compression with the turbo it will be sure to blow after a couple months, if that.
Just wait it out, and start off slow. Get some better headers, a straight pipe, the gsr tranny, but then go for looks.. It's not all about speed.
What is a "low compression turbo?" I thought the purpose of every turbo was higher compression! Also, sorry about your luck,but many, many people have run a stock motor/low boost setup with great success. I would bet that your tune wasn't up to par.

To the op: OBX cams have been PROVEN to eat rockers. DO NOT PURCHASE THESE. The best bang for your buck IF you stay away from boost would be a transmission with shorter gearing (b16, gsr, itr, ctr) and a vtec head. There seems to be a common misconception that an exhaust, header, cai, etc make power. This is, for the most part,false (one exception being the scavenging effect that some header designs take advantage of). These items simply allow the motor to breathe more efficiently. Do some research!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Hahhaha I love this kind of post.First all, with all of those money invested, you'll be lucky if you even dyno an increase of 10hp which is not likely with a pretty much basic setup.Intake is considerable because most people have them.Dc headers 4-2-1 are overated and hp gain are barley noticable.WSII exhaust are not meant for performance and many have suggested it restricts airflow.Skunk2 intake manifold looks cool and horsepower gain are little but if you get idling problems then thats your fault.OBX camshaft will make a difference ONLY if your motor is considerably built.Pulleys sheds a little power, but if something blows then sucks for you.If you got money, then sure invest in it. But if your smart, then save up and invest in a turbo. I laugh at the fact on how people over look that just light rims and shorter tranny will make more of a difference than all the parts you consider doing. Be smart, invest less for safer, longer last parts for an overall better gain in horsepower.
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