I looked through the FAQ and didn't see it so I'm going to post anyway ... I have a 2001 DX coupe and I want to get VTEC on it ... do i have to go about getting a new engine with a VTEC header on it or can I install a VTEC head on my d-series and it work ?? Also i would like to know how much I'm looking at for an install like this a list of parts/amount of labor required would be awesome if anyone knows ...

 

whoa boy.... first of its a head not a header. header is the piece that comes of the block for your exhaust. What you need is a d17 head of an EX.. the whole dead should if im not mistakin ( which i may be) should bolt right to the block. Honestly. SOHC v tec isent really v tec at all.. or at least not what your thinking im sure. you will get like a 10 to 15 HP gain for a few hundred bucks.. plus labor if you dont know how to do it.. IMO waste of money.. but its up to you

 

lol come on, he made an honest mistake in his explanation. i won't even start on all of your grammar and spelling errors don't be a dick. sohc vtec is still vtec regardless of how hard it kicks.

anyways, this have been covered many of times. basically like it was said you will need the following.

d17 vtec head (with dizzy)
d17 ecu (so vtec works)
timing belt, etc etc.

really for the cost you might as well just save your pennies and build a home made turbo kit. and get a chipped ecu so you can have your set up tuned. it will cost a little bit more but the end result will be a lot more then 10-15 hp. you will be more satisfied with the power then

 

see yah thats what everybody tells me but how much is a turbo kit goin to run me cuz all the kits i've seen have been upwards of 3 grand (and people tell me ill still have to buy parts after that)

 

you could piece together a turbo kit for $1200 or less. then ask around your area and try to find a shop that could tune it. since your in a 01 i'm not too sure where to find a chipped ecu so you can have your car tuned. but really that would be your best bet. if you did the mini-me swap and gave your car vtec you are probably going to spend a little over $600 to get that done.

might as well save your pennies

 

well THAT is a whole other can of worms.

Prices of turbo "kits" can vary greatly depending on application, power goals, what kind / size turbocharger you want, and how "put together" the kit is.

If you haven't looked into it a little more deeply, I would suggest going to the F/I tech forum on HT and getting your learn on. Turbo's aren't easy / cheap to play around with if you don't know what's going on with them.

I have seen used t28 kits for d series motors for under $1,000 with pretty much everything but ECU or EMS.

I'm pretty sure most people would build a junkyard turbo on the cheap though.

 

This is the issue i have with your "theory's. 1. any turbo kit your buying for under 3 or 4 k is TRASH!!!!! I hate when people give this kind of advice. Because he will build the car with you so called " home made turbo kit. Than **** breaks right and left. When it comes to spelling and grammar. who gives a hoot. didnt realize we were on a English class forum.. as for me being a dick. I was not being a dick. i was simply telling him because many people on here would just rost him. i was educating him so he new better next time.. I dont see how thats being a dick.. people come on here to learn about cars. not look bad when they dont really know.. so i was helping him out. thanks you very much Mr moody. sorry to make you angry.. But unless you dont care about reliability and going " fast" for cheep.. than i disagree with all statement made here. Turbo is a great way to go. if your willing to do it right. if you do turbo cheep. your in for a hell of a ride!!! so good luck if you listen to the 1000$ turbo kit dudes

 

first of STOP posting in these long *** sentences, it makes it pretty difficult to read asides from the fact that a 3 year old can spell better then you.

second off not everyone is looking for a "fast" car. he wanted to have some vtec on his civic, so you make fun of him for typing headers instead of head and then you go on a rant about how sohc vtec really isn't vtec at all. sorry but that is just complete ignorance. if the majority of the people on here thought doing mini-me swaps to their non vtec sohc motors was pointless then no one would ever do it... right?

and HMT kits work just fine. once again there are plenty of people on this forum and on http://homemadeturbo.com/ whose kits work just fine. their cars are definitely not breaking right and left. i don't think a HMT with 10 or less lbs of boost is going to break his car with a proper tune.

do your homework man. to build a HMT kit for under 1k would be pretty simple. its all about finding deals, the economy is bad people are selling their projects. like texasnick said he should do his homework in the f/i section and i am sure he would be fine.

you didn't **** me off at all, actually i am sitting here laughing at how stupid you sound. thank you for the giggles while i am at work i appreciate it.

 

sorry mom... ill try not to spell wrong anymore. and again i will state... you are not hereing me.. im not ranting on him nor making fun of him. i was just helping him out. so he understood what he was asking. you just miss understood my intentions. and then you come in here starting ****. But its ok. sorry to ruin your day e thug

 

oh and when it comes to v tec. go do your HW and find out the real def of v tec.. then come back and tell me the sohc can do it... just cuz it says v tec dosent mean it is buddy... honda uses it as a selling catch.. so b4 u come bash me do YOUR HW... say goodbye

 

considering VTEC is an acronym for Variable Valve Timing and Electronic Lift Control, yes it does have vtec.

It's not the same 3-lobe vtec from your k series (as long as it's not the a3, lol), but it's still VTEC, and a non-vtec D17A1 puts out 115 hp @ 6,100 rpm, while the vtak'd D17A2, puts out 127 hp @ 6,300 rpm

 

Ok bro..you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I have a 04 d17a2 that I boost'd myself..Do no sit here and tell him he cant do the turbo kit home made..you retarted..I did my turbo kit for $1800...all custom..all what I wanted..not want another company wanted for me....And my car has had no problems at all...Be running 7.5 psi since Feb 08...so dont talk **** if you dont have a custom turbo kit yourself..I made it all myself and have no problems..Maybe your mechanical skills are bad but my turbo kit is great....210whp @7.5 psi for $1800....keep talking...


And you can not chip the OBD II ecu..You have to get a piggyback or stand alone...bottom line....but doing the head sway isn't a bad idea..just dont expect to get huge gains for your money. I would say save up and get K-pro. You will be able to get 20-30 hp just from the K-pro..its made by Hondata and runs about $1200..

 

and i quote myself
not talking **** but once again your retarded... don't try using what i said about doing your home work on HMT kits against me with SOHC Vtec motors. your still dumb.

lets see (straight from wikipedia)

VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Electronic Lift Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles...

all vtec does is use the different cam profiles (the lobes) and switches which ones then engine is using depending at where you are at in your RPM. just because there is only 1 cam doesn't mean its not vtec. it just means it won't kick as hard or be as noticable as vtec in a DOHC motor.

so how does that make the sohc motors not really vtec? care to explain? if you can't then seriously dude stop talking your proving my point that you don't know what you are talking about EVEN MORE then you already have.

oh hey look a whole article on how sohc vtec works;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#SOHC_VTEC

so if its just a gimmick from honda then why are all these sohc motors vtec?

91-99 1.5 L D15B (Civic) VTi VTEC
92-95 1.6 L D16Z6 (Civic) EX/Si, Del Sol Si VTEC
96-00 1.5 L D15Z6 (Civic) (VTEC SOHC) iLS EDM
96-00 1.6 L D16Y8 (Civic) EX VTEC
01-05 1.7 L D17A2 (Civic) EX VTEC/VTEC-II

and to fight your case if we were talking about vtec-E like what comes in a 92-95 VX or HX or what ever then i would completely agree with you. its more of an economy version of vtec that kicks in at very low RPM's to boost fuel economy. like these motors;

92-95 1.5 L D15Z1 (Civic) VX VTEC-E
96-00 1.6 L D16Y5 (Civic) HX VTEC-E
01-05 1.7 L D17A6 (Civic) HX VTEC-E

man you just got schooled by like 3 people at once stop acting like you know everything. i don't know everything but i know how to research things before i try to act like i know them. and seriously try telling some guys on d-series.org that SOHC Vtec isn't real and that its just a catch so honda would sell more cars.

i said good day

 

i didn't think you could chip OBD2 ecu. I really don't know much about them to be honest i have had nothing but EG's for cars. obd1 ftw! thanks guys for backing me up btw.

 

No problem bro...OBDI is nice..but I love K-pro for the OBD II....Right now I have AEM F/IC and its ok but I am going to get K-pro soon...I just hate when people come on here talking **** like they know..I beat that guy doesn't even have a turbo or anything. He is talking **** when yet I have proof(my own car) that a Home Made Turbo kit can be just as good if not better than dezod...tsi...or any other company that makes them..they make the kits to what they think is right. Well personally its my car and I say what is right and not right.

For example. Dezod's kit only offer the IC piping with the dual sided intercooler. Well personally I dont like that look and I wanted a regular FMIC( Front Mount Inter-Cooler) if you didn't know...hahaha...So to me custom turbo kit is better. You can do what you want to your car, use parts you want and if you have mechanical skills you can do it all yourself and save yourself a whole lot of money...like I did.....So of course I am going to back you up..that other guy has no idea what he is talking about, and should shut his mouth before he gets owned!!!!!

 

I didn't know k-pro could do that on a d17. That's impressive. I've heard of those kind of gains from k series motors, but not from a D....cool ****.


Just general FYI for everyone (it even seems to focus on the D17), SOHC VTEC explanation

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-2001-2005-78/vtec-explained-1689966/

 

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Here is a DIY Link for putting an EX head on a DX/LX motor.

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