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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Default diff. between air to air and air to water cores

i like to know if these any difference between the two. thanks!!
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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this link has all the answers you will need

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Default Re: diff. between air to air and air to water cores

air to air is an atmospheric flow through design. where water to air you have water or coolant to pass through the core to cool it. more for drag applications as heat soak is a killer for this setup.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by allhonda
i like to know if these any difference between the two. thanks!!
air to air = what these guys have on their hondas. fmic suburu etc.

water-air is easiest understood if you look at on o3+ cobra system.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:44 AM
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Default Re: diff. between air to air and air to water cores

guys hes asking about the core itself. wondering if you can take a air/air core and weld it all shut for a air/water setup right?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ScorpioMk
guys hes asking about the core itself. wondering if you can take a air/air core and weld it all shut for a air/water setup right?
yes and thank you!!!!!!

i know what intercooler are!!!! i have a turbo set-up, like scorpiomk said im talking about the core itselfe are they build the same can i take an air to air and weld it shut and turn it into an air to water??
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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The water to air cores have different shaped tubes to allow for the difference in fluid flow.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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someone bumped one of manifoldmike's old threads recently, you can get alot from his pictures
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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hey i did a search on manifoldmike profield and he has no posts, idont know if is the new honda-tech acting up or what
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/little-1000hp-aw-action-2230718/
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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And when you want to get seriously weird with water to air, then there's always these.
Regards Andrew.

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 01:49 AM
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Default Re: diff. between air to air and air to water cores

ive looked around for decent info on those laminovas and a couple questions.

1. the tubes that go around the cores, do you purchase those or buy tubing with the correct inner diameter and machine the openings.

2. how are the cores secured in the center without moving left to right or having water leak into the center. i see o-rings are talked about but havent seen a good picture, a lot of the pics i think would help are dead.

3. how many cores do you think it would take to cool a gt3076 making 500whp. i see the one posted has 4 cores but dont know the power goals. and do most people run these with just a radiator and pump or also a tank they can put ice into?

the little info ive found makes me wanna look into this more for my car, ive always wanted to try a air/water setup and this makes me want to more. i can incorporate this into my intake manifold to save weight over a normal a/w setup and keep the weight further back.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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ok this is new for how does this one works!?!?!?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 06:23 AM
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Default Re: diff. between air to air and air to water cores

check out frozenboost.com they have some pretty good a-w setups on there and they also have a little writeup about the difference between an a-a setup and an a-w setup...I've been looking into it on an MR2 I'm building because I don't want to use a trunk mount a-a
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Default Re: diff. between air to air and air to water cores

Originally Posted by ScorpioMk
ive looked around for decent info on those laminovas and a couple questions.

1. the tubes that go around the cores, do you purchase those or buy tubing with the correct inner diameter and machine the openings.

2. how are the cores secured in the center without moving left to right or having water leak into the center. i see o-rings are talked about but havent seen a good picture, a lot of the pics i think would help are dead.

3. how many cores do you think it would take to cool a gt3076 making 500whp. i see the one posted has 4 cores but dont know the power goals. and do most people run these with just a radiator and pump or also a tank they can put ice into?

the little info ive found makes me wanna look into this more for my car, ive always wanted to try a air/water setup and this makes me want to more. i can incorporate this into my intake manifold to save weight over a normal a/w setup and keep the weight further back.
1. The tubes are custom machined to mine and awill4x4's specs

2. The end caps seal on a compression O ring and the cores are held by this in place. Also available from us.



3. A 292mm core is rated at 150HP each. Yep can supply these too.

As well as end plates generic or custom.








Test results for my 4 core intercooler in Red first graph.
GT3082R Stright 6 2F Toyota



2nd 2 Graphs are data fro my intercooler tests.
Pre and post pressure drop



Pre and Post Temps.



More info here LINK

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