d16y8 turbo question
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can i safely slam a turbo on my d16y8. its pretty much stock other than dc headers and intake.
and if i can, what is the max boost that i can use without blowing my ****? turbo will be a t3/t4
i plan to upgrade internals later.
and if i can, what is the max boost that i can use without blowing my ****? turbo will be a t3/t4
i plan to upgrade internals later.
its not a question of boost blowing your ****. it is in the tune and horsepower it makes. if you have a good competent tuner tune it, youll be ok. you should be able to just about exceed the stock map sensor, with that said get a 3 bar so you can effectively use the boost cut feature.
what do you plan oin tuning with?
what do you plan oin tuning with?
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explanation of what a 3 bar is please?
and i plan on tuning it with a stock p2p. since i dont want to go to p28 cuz i dont want a CEL. plus its obd1
and i plan on taking it to bisi moto to get it tuned
and i plan on tuning it with a stock p2p. since i dont want to go to p28 cuz i dont want a CEL. plus its obd1
and i plan on taking it to bisi moto to get it tuned
I think before you proceed any further, you need to do some research and homework on turbocharging and what it involves. This will not only save you from getting flamed on, but more importantly, time and money.
if bisi is tuning it, you should be in good hands. you should be able to run 10 psi. your stock map sensor can read up to 11.2 +- a little. to use boost cut properly, you need the ecu to know exactly where the boost is. i.e. not trying to cut boost at 11 psi with an 11.2 psi map.
the 3 bar can read up to 28 +- a little. not that you are goin to run 28 psi, but your ecu will know where it is and can boost cut properly.
the 3 bar can read up to 28 +- a little. not that you are goin to run 28 psi, but your ecu will know where it is and can boost cut properly.
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so your going to use a piggy back than? Which one? Your stock internals take roughly 225hp a tad more on a good tune. And pretty much anything at that power level on a piggy back is not a "good" tune
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yea?? can you be specific? im usually on the tcivic 92-00 forum so im not sure what words ppl use here.
like what is piggy back?
also what did you mean by "which one?" which one what???????
like what is piggy back?
also what did you mean by "which one?" which one what???????
Hey,
I'm in the same boat as you. Trying to figure out what it takes to turbo my d16y8 and do it well. My only advice to you is to read. Go to the eg/ek civic section and the first thing on the list is the FAQ section. I've been reading for hours every day for the past 2 months, no joke. I can guarantee you there is so much you are going to need to know before you spend a penny. Take the 3bar map sensor: it means manifold absolute pressure, the name explains itself. One bar is just a tad bit below one atmosphere of pressure. (1 atmosphere is 14.7 PSI at sea level) so a three bar sensor will be able to read the extra PSI you are loading ontop.
Second is your ecu:
A piggy back is basically a chip or something you plug into your stock stuff so you have a few more options when you take it to get tuned. They aren't going to break anything unless you really screw something up. But you won't be happy with it at all. Our best route with the y8 is to get the obdI like a p28 with a jumper harness. That's really the only way you will get a rock solid tune if you have a turbo on there. I'm buying the hondata ecu that has the jumper harness already stuffed inside cause I live in washington and come emissions time it will be easy to just put the stock stuff in.
people expect you to know these things but no one will tell you. Mostly because they had to research it and learn the hard way so no body is about to hand feed you the info you are going to NEED if you don't want your **** all over the highway.
Good luck! Let me know if I can help out at all. If I don't know the answer right away (most likely situation) I will find out.
I'm in the same boat as you. Trying to figure out what it takes to turbo my d16y8 and do it well. My only advice to you is to read. Go to the eg/ek civic section and the first thing on the list is the FAQ section. I've been reading for hours every day for the past 2 months, no joke. I can guarantee you there is so much you are going to need to know before you spend a penny. Take the 3bar map sensor: it means manifold absolute pressure, the name explains itself. One bar is just a tad bit below one atmosphere of pressure. (1 atmosphere is 14.7 PSI at sea level) so a three bar sensor will be able to read the extra PSI you are loading ontop.
Second is your ecu:
A piggy back is basically a chip or something you plug into your stock stuff so you have a few more options when you take it to get tuned. They aren't going to break anything unless you really screw something up. But you won't be happy with it at all. Our best route with the y8 is to get the obdI like a p28 with a jumper harness. That's really the only way you will get a rock solid tune if you have a turbo on there. I'm buying the hondata ecu that has the jumper harness already stuffed inside cause I live in washington and come emissions time it will be easy to just put the stock stuff in.
people expect you to know these things but no one will tell you. Mostly because they had to research it and learn the hard way so no body is about to hand feed you the info you are going to NEED if you don't want your **** all over the highway.
Good luck! Let me know if I can help out at all. If I don't know the answer right away (most likely situation) I will find out.
i used to have d16y8 with turbo....made 198hp 186tq stock internals on 10lbs of boost using hondata s200 and tuned by dynospot racing in san jose.i used 10 lbs boost in the track and 5 lbs boost regular driving 440 cc injector u need that.
I'll give you the standard response i give everyone...
On a stock D series, you can safely make 220-240whp with a good tune regardless of PSI as long as your turbo is efficient at the PR and the fuel grade you run is sufficient to prevent detonation. The rods are the weak point on the D series engine...if you want to make more than than the aforementioned power limit, plan for a Vitara/Tuner Toys build. It'll allow you to push upwards of 400whp safely...
On a stock D series, you can safely make 220-240whp with a good tune regardless of PSI as long as your turbo is efficient at the PR and the fuel grade you run is sufficient to prevent detonation. The rods are the weak point on the D series engine...if you want to make more than than the aforementioned power limit, plan for a Vitara/Tuner Toys build. It'll allow you to push upwards of 400whp safely...
Im bone stock internals pushing 14psi 1bar wg spring with 440cc and neptune management @268hp The motor hat been alive for 5years now. I was only pushing 8-10 the first 3 but all is good and Im rockin in it tonight.
this has already been explained to you in this thread. if that didnt help, LOOK IT UP!!! but since i know you wont; bar is short for barometric pressure unit, with 1 bar (as stated above^^^) being equal to about 14.7 psi (pounds per square inch) of pressure at sea level, 2 bar being twice that, (carry the one) 29.4 psi.
when someone tells you your are going to need a 3 bar they are REFERring (stop smoking it) to your map (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor. your stock map sensor is only good for around 11 psi and you want a turbo that will make more boost (pressure) than that, so they are a BAD combination.
if you still dont understand this you need to stop now because you WILL blow your engine fast. and then youll have to go back to that darn little bus j/k. its odd that you have 400+ post and dont know what a piggy back or map sensor are. maybe you should stop posting and spend some time reading these threads, theres a lot of very helpful info to be found if you just look and read.
IMO dont boost your car if you dont know what you talkin about cause if you goin to tune on p2p you cant it obd2 unless your on a piggy back explan that? its like a VAFC...you need a p28 with a conversion harness and chip it...with the crome pro you wont throw any CELs cause it will cancel those CEL out in the process of tuning my advice take to someone that knows what there doing before DD is not running anymore...i had a y7 on 13 psi on t25 ran like a beast
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i know what a map is. i just didnt know what bar was. like i stated earlier. im MAINLY on the 92-00 civic forum NOT the f/i forum.
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