How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8
11-08-2004, 09:52 AM
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How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8
Quick stupid question. How safe would it be for me to roll around without a tune until i can get the car into the shop. I have DSM 450's installed and programed into the emange. I have a T3/To4b turbo. If i do not boost, will it be safe to drive around for alittle while?
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11-08-2004, 10:20 AM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (POWERINTEGRA)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by POWERINTEGRA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no safe!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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11-08-2004, 12:49 PM
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cool thanks guyz, im going to throw another thing on here, im highway driving 350 miles home from school, still ok as long as i keep it out of boost???
11-08-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: (00BoostedD16)
Im not tryin to steal your post I just had a quick question then im done, when I go to get my car tuned what exactly do they do? Im thinkin since im adding turbo and all that the tuner would just retard my timing, adjust the hondata chip, and pretty much make the car drivable, after I add everthing?
11-08-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (00BoostedD16)
it's real hard not to hit boost. it happens on accident easier then you think.
as another safe gaurd, retard your timing a little and create a leak in your piping. just lossen the intercooler piping or something.
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as another safe gaurd, retard your timing a little and create a leak in your piping. just lossen the intercooler piping or something.
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11-08-2004, 02:36 PM
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Wow, that sounds like a really good idea "lanojp1". anyone else try this? By the way thank you for everyone that has responded. If anyone else wants to add anything it would be greatly appriated.
Thanks again
Chuck
Thanks again
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11-08-2004, 03:06 PM
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Re: (lanojp1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanojp1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take the spring out of the wastegate, all the boost will leak out the gate...</TD></TR></TABLE>
he's right. I have an internal wastegate and just disconect the wastegate rod and leave the gate open. it works and you can floor your car and not have to worry about boosting. have fun
he's right. I have an internal wastegate and just disconect the wastegate rod and leave the gate open. it works and you can floor your car and not have to worry about boosting. have fun
11-08-2004, 03:14 PM
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thats going to be pretty funny, expecially with an external gate opening. haha. Awesome, thanks for your help guyz.
Chuck
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11-08-2004, 04:09 PM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (00BoostedD16)
i drove from late may till first week of july untuned never once went into boost, all because i was waiting on a 2mm cometic headgasket that was on back order, that really sucked but it was well worth the wait, and the headgasket was suppose to be in 2 days after the install began this was some real ****
so i would say its safe as long as your responsible and you dont beat on it, now boost stay in vacum
so i would say its safe as long as your responsible and you dont beat on it, now boost stay in vacum
11-08-2004, 04:25 PM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (mpintegra96)
im about to run turbo on my y8 and plan on hittig boost.im going to keep the boost low though. i going to be running the t3/t4
11-08-2004, 05:05 PM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (platinum00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by platinum00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's real hard not to hit boost. it happens on accident easier then you think.
as another safe gaurd, retard your timing a little and create a leak in your piping. just lossen the intercooler piping or something.
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it's not THAT hard. i drove around for a whole week on stock injectors till i got my injectors in. didn't hit boost at all. drove it to and from work and school. just gotta baby it, be careful and watch the boost gauge.
as another safe gaurd, retard your timing a little and create a leak in your piping. just lossen the intercooler piping or something.
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it's not THAT hard. i drove around for a whole week on stock injectors till i got my injectors in. didn't hit boost at all. drove it to and from work and school. just gotta baby it, be careful and watch the boost gauge.
11-08-2004, 05:43 PM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (M.A.R.C.)
I disagree with all of you 
I know plenty of people that drive everyday IN boost and rip on it plenty and dont have it tuned. My friend runs 14lbs on his z6 in his del sol and beats on it really hard and hasn't had any problems. You dont need to worry you can boost it just dont rip on it hard. You guys are freaks 
I know plenty of people that drive everyday IN boost and rip on it plenty and dont have it tuned. My friend runs 14lbs on his z6 in his del sol and beats on it really hard and hasn't had any problems. You dont need to worry you can boost it just dont rip on it hard. You guys are freaks
11-08-2004, 05:46 PM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (KaizenDc5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KaizenDc5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im about to run turbo on my y8 and plan on hittig boost.im going to keep the boost low though. i going to be running the t3/t4</TD></TR></TABLE>
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11-08-2004, 06:08 PM
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Thanks alot for your guyz help, its much appriated. I just took my wastegate apart and removed the spring. Hopefully that works.
Thanks again,
Chuck
If anyone else wants to toss some more input in, go for it, the more the better.
Thanks again,
Chuck
If anyone else wants to toss some more input in, go for it, the more the better.
11-09-2004, 01:05 AM
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (hatchback_al)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchback_al »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree with all of you I know plenty of people that drive everyday IN boost and rip on it plenty and dont have it tuned. My friend runs 14lbs on his z6 in his del sol and beats on it really hard and hasn't had any problems. You dont need to worry you can boost it just dont rip on it hard. You guys are freaks </TD></TR></TABLE>
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I know plenty of people that drive everyday IN boost and rip on it plenty and dont have it tuned. My friend runs 14lbs on his z6 in his del sol and beats on it really hard and hasn't had any problems. You dont need to worry you can boost it just dont rip on it hard. You guys are freaks </TD></TR></TABLE>dork
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Re: How safe is it to go without a tune? turbo d16y8 (platinum00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by platinum00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as another safe gaurd, retard your timing a little and create a leak in your piping. just lossen the intercooler piping or something. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Those are both not good ideas. Firing the cylinder later results in more pressure, and heat, escaping the combustion chamber out the exhaust valve, instead of being spent driving the piston down. This extra energy goes right to the turbine, and helps spool the turbo.
Leaks in charge pipe result in the turbo being overspooled, and killing it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchback_al »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree with all of you I know plenty of people that drive everyday IN boost and rip on it plenty and dont have it tuned. My friend runs 14lbs on his z6 in his del sol and beats on it really hard and hasn't had any problems. You dont need to worry you can boost it just dont rip on it hard. You guys are freaks </TD></TR></TABLE>
This guy is an expert.
Those are both not good ideas. Firing the cylinder later results in more pressure, and heat, escaping the combustion chamber out the exhaust valve, instead of being spent driving the piston down. This extra energy goes right to the turbine, and helps spool the turbo.
Leaks in charge pipe result in the turbo being overspooled, and killing it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchback_al »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree with all of you I know plenty of people that drive everyday IN boost and rip on it plenty and dont have it tuned. My friend runs 14lbs on his z6 in his del sol and beats on it really hard and hasn't had any problems. You dont need to worry you can boost it just dont rip on it hard. You guys are freaks </TD></TR></TABLE>
This guy is an expert.