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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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I want to convert my OBD2B 98 Accord ( Soon TO Be Manual )To a ODB1 ECU so I loose the Immobilizer and other stupid sensors my car has.

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Would a OBD1 H22 ECU work?
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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Any chipable OBD1 ECU will work to run your F23 VTEC, once it is chipped and tuned. P06, P28, P74, P75. etc etc. If you buy a non VTEC ECU it will need to have VTEC added. Very easily done. You will also require a tune on top of this. I don't think there are any OBD1 ECU's that will run your OBD2 F23 VTEC very well without a chip and a tune.

I'm not sure if I have any ECUs left at home. It's been a while and I've robbed a few of them to fix others. If I do happen to find one I'll let you know.

Who if anyone do you have planned to do your tuning? Not too many shops down your way that have a dynos is there? It's been a while since I've looked into the Halifax scene. Daniel Leger, aka JD Racing up near Moncton can tune your beast.... He is an authorized tuner for eCtune :thumbs up:
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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Any chipable OBD1 ECU will work to run your F23 VTEC, once it is chipped and tuned. P06, P28, P74, P75. etc etc. If you buy a non VTEC ECU it will need to have VTEC added. Very easily done. You will also require a tune on top of this. I don't think there are any OBD1 ECU's that will run your OBD2 F23 VTEC very well without a chip and a tune.

I'm not sure if I have any ECUs left at home. It's been a while and I've robbed a few of them to fix others. If I do happen to find one I'll let you know.

Who if anyone do you have planned to do your tuning? Not too many shops down your way that have a dynos is there? It's been a while since I've looked into the Halifax scene. Daniel Leger, aka JD Racing up near Moncton can tune your beast.... He is an authorized tuner for eCtune :thumbs up:

Wouldn't really call it a beast, Just a Stock F23 with bolt ons. I need a new dizzy soon ( about 400+ dollars ) and for the price I can get a F23A1 with 25-30K for 550$

Yeah I'm member of LowMotion Import Tuners, so I know everybody.

Moncton is kinda far to get a ECU/Car tuned. Espically with in a month, I'm doing a 5 speed swap and possible dropping in a new F23.

Raven Auto Sports Got a Dyno and its in Halifax. Where I got my Car Dyno'ed. Tuning, Not much to tune, Ran a 113/115 last run with my Faulty Auto Tranny, 218K.

Wanted to go with ODB1 because they don't have the immbolizer function which is a pain in the *** for doing swaps and stuff.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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What About This ECU?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...1%7C240%3A1318
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Well someone else may be able to chime in but I think your options to run a stock OBD1 ECU are pretty slim. You may be able to run it on a POA from an 94-95 F22B1 VTEC Ex-R Accord. Other than that your 2L plus sohc options are limited. An H23 ECU out of a 93-95 Prelude might be another option if it will run a single stick properly

Have you talked to the boys at Raven to see if they can hook you up with a deal on an OBD1 ECU & base tune? Sucks but when you go to OBD1 most times your going to have to tune if you want the ECU to run an OBD2 engine.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Well someone else may be able to chime in but I think your options to run a stock OBD1 ECU are pretty slim. You may be able to run it on a POA from an 94-95 F22B1 VTEC Ex-R Accord. Other than that your 2L plus sohc options are limited. An H23 ECU out of a 93-95 Prelude might be another option if it will run a single stick properly

Have you talked to the boys at Raven to see if they can hook you up with a deal on an OBD1 ECU & base tune? Sucks but when you go to OBD1 most times your going to have to tune if you want the ECU to run an OBD2 engine.


Problem is.... I'm doing the 5 speed swap soon because of my failing auto tranny, But I'm doing it at another place, Problem is my Immoblizer system, I'm gonna require a tow to The Dealership to reprogram the 99 M/T F23A1 ECU I got so my car will run.. Joys of that dumb system. I want to remove my O2 Sensors ( Nothing but PITA ( Throw Code 67 all the time, Because miss reading of the O2 sensors so I always get Check Engine Light ) and Immobilzer system and ODB1 were the only ones w/o it. Now can you see why I want to convert over to ODB1....

I dealt with James AKA Raven a few times. Problem is, I'm really the only one that really plays around with 6th Gen Accords around here so its always new stuff for people epically when they are used to Civic/Tegs
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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I hear ya... I converted to OBD1 on my stock F22B2. Although I bought, chipped and street tuned the ecu myself so it wasn't as hard a choice for me.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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i just switched my car back to obd2 and put the stock f23 back in it and now i cant get my mt ecm to read my key or the immobilizer. i didnt get a vin with the new ecm .. there is alot of bs with this ecm. my car was once an auto and i had to do so much to get it to 5 speed. i have been messing with it for at least a month now. n e help on how to get the new mt ecm to work???
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Yeah Ghost, I talked to James AKA Raven, He said to get me a ODB1 P06 or P28 ECU and he can tune it with Chrome to make it run my car. Gonna go with a 6200 RPM rev limiter, 4000 RPM VTEC engagement, No O2 Sensors, No Knock, No governor.

98-4dr might be a dealership/tuner problem.. One reason why I wanted to go ODB1 just so I dont have these problems..Its only like a Accord Problem, I assisted with many engine swaps but on civic/teg or prelude and never had a problem. My swap is gonna take a day, but gonna require a tow to the dealer to reprogram the PC, Then off to Ravens for a ODB1 tune.. Which works out well, Because raven got a indoor dyno, so I want to compaire my Auto Dyno run with my car as a 5 speed.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Yeah Ghost, I talked to James AKA Raven, He said to get me a ODB1 P06 or P28 ECU and he can tune it with Chrome to make it run my car. Gonna go with a 6200 RPM rev limiter, 4000 RPM VTEC engagement, No O2 Sensors, No Knock, No governor.

My swap is gonna take a day, but gonna require a tow to the dealer to reprogram the PC, Then off to Ravens for a ODB1 tune.. Which works out well, Because raven got a indoor dyno, so I want to compaire my Auto Dyno run with my car as a 5 speed.

I kinda figured one of the local boys would step up and give you a hand.

Happy Holidays & Good luck with the swap
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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I kinda figured one of the local boys would step up and give you a hand.

Happy Holidays & Good luck with the swap
Yeah.. I knew James would.
If not would been Glubes Speed And Sound..

You too, Happy Holidays. I dunno about the swap now, I find out on the 10th or not if I really got a serious problem with my kidneys so that will put me out for awhile if I do, I'm trying to finish my car before April 24th for Speed Sport 2009.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Well best of luck to ya! Hope your good to go. :thumbs-up:

I doubt that I'll have mine done for speed sport 09....hopefully 2010.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Well best of luck to ya! Hope your good to go. :thumbs-up:

I doubt that I'll have mine done for speed sport 09....hopefully 2010.
Oh 506, So your in NB eh? I'm not putting my car actually in the show, but I just set a goal to have it done. Minus motor swap or interior work.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Oh 506, So your in NB eh? I'm not putting my car actually in the show, but I just set a goal to have it done. Minus motor swap or interior work.
Yes sir, Actually born a Blue noser, then moved and grew up, and still reside, just outside SJ NB.

I haven't planned on putting mine in it ether. It's just that date is usually around the weekend that everyone starts bringing out their summer rides. It's a good spring time shake down cruise. I don't plan on too many shows but I'll probably hit Shubbie for as many solo weekends as they run.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Yes sir, Actually born a Blue noser, then moved and grew up, and still reside, just outside SJ NB.

I haven't planned on putting mine in it ether. It's just that date is usually around the weekend that everyone starts bringing out their summer rides. It's a good spring time shake down cruise. I don't plan on too many shows but I'll probably hit Shubbie for as many solo weekends as they run.
Cool, I was born out west, Moved to NS when I was 5, lived here since, I only went on a few cruises, 2 car shows and a dyno day. I only got into tuner cars this year too.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Just to add to the info GhostAccord already mentioned...

My ECU is a P61 from a 92-93 GSR. Like Ghost said, the stock OBD1 ECU wouldn't run the car worth a s***.

Check out Xenocron.com or Phearable.net for ECUs. Both can provide a properly working chipped ECU with a basemap suited to your requests at a fair price (better than that eBay auction), though I hear Phearable doesn't have a very good basemap for the F23.

Definately go with eCtune. I've run it with absolutely no problems, and every tuner that I've spoken with who has used eCtune highly recommends it over Crome/Uber/Neptune, and especially those monopolizing bastards of Hondata. The ease of use, available features, and end results leave all the others in the dust.

Also check out 6th gen accord dot com. I've been working on an OBD1 write-up for us over there, but free time is not something I have a lot of.
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Just desolder the immobilizer chip out of the ecu and the obd2 ecu should still run the engine with any key
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