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will a gsr superchager fit??

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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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i am planning on purchasing a jrsc for a gsr but i have a b16..will it fit and work for my b16??
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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it might fit. i think the cylinder heads are the same?? not sure
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by slimjimming6688
it might fit. i think the cylinder heads are the same?? not sure

that was unhelpful...

it'll fit.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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im pretty sure that gsr and b16 intake manifolds are different so i would have to say no
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by coupej1
im pretty sure that gsr and b16 intake manifolds are different so i would have to say no
although gsr and b16 intake manifolds are different, the bolt patterns are as well so modification would be necessary

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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by coupej1
im pretty sure that gsr and b16 intake manifolds are different so i would have to say no
im gunna have to say your a moron for answering without proper information.
it will fit, the difference between the intake manifolds on the B18c/1/5 and the b16a/2/3/b is just the shape. the side that bolts to the head its self is indentical.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nix94delsol
im gunna have to say your a moron for answering without proper information.
it will fit, the difference between the intake manifolds on the B18c/1/5 and the b16a/2/3/b is just the shape. the side that bolts to the head its self is indentical.
well im gonna say that you are the moron here cause jrsc has diffrent part numbers for gsr and type r because there is diffrence in the intake manifold gsr is its own seperate intake b16 and type r are the same
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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thats odd, because the GSR in my back yard has a b16 intake manifold, and just incase your new on the whole root style forced induction systems, thats where it goes. IDC if the part numbers are different, the supercharger will fit.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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The B18C1 and B16/B18C5 have a very different bolt pattern on the cylinder head on the intake side. This is a well known fact in the honda world, most of you answered wrong. Now whether or not the JRSC has a universal bolt pattern that will fit both heads, I have no idea, but I highly doubt it.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sicones
The B18C1 and B16/B18C5 have a very different bolt pattern on the cylinder head on the intake side. This is a well known fact in the honda world, most of you answered wrong. Now whether or not the JRSC has a universal bolt pattern that will fit both heads, I have no idea, but I highly doubt it.
http://shopping.lightningmotorsports...productid=1542

then why is this pretty much generic?
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nix94delsol
http://shopping.lightningmotorsports...productid=1542

then why is this pretty much generic?
now look at the related products on same page hondata intake manifold gasket you notice b1bc1 isn't there only b16 b17 and b18c5

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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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there isnt a universal bolt pattern i have one on my gsr that sitting in my kitchen atm lol it is model specific
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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dam guys now i can decide if it will fit or not..
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmdikk
dam guys now i can decide if it will fit or not..
dude seriously it will not fit i have been working on hondas for 10 years now did my first b16 swap in 99 gsr head and b16 head are not the same bolt pattern this is common knowledge to anyone that does swaps on a regular basis if you are really not sure call jrsc and ask them they will tell you the same thing i am telling you
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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it will not fit unless your using a GSR (P72) head...
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nix94delsol
im gunna have to say your a moron for answering without proper information.
it will fit, the difference between the intake manifolds on the B18c/1/5 and the b16a/2/3/b is just the shape. the side that bolts to the head its self is indentical.
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MORON!
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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It will not fit. The OEM manifolds are totally different. The skunk2 manifolds are totally different. If you look at the link someone posted to the skunk2, it's NOT universal - it says b16, b17, and b18c5; it does NOT say B18c1.

The P72 head has a totally different bolt pattern and runner design.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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please listen to everyone who says it will not fit. it doesn't. i have a good 9 years of working on Honda's and know with 100% certainty that it will not work.

but i hear that with a mazda nut and a little weld that it will fit.

link to why i posted this. look at the 10th & 11th post.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/4-5-lug-conversion-2439899/
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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ok so im thinking that it wont fit then..
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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B18C1 and B16A/B18C5 have different intake manifold bolt patterns.

A little research will go a long way. Take a look at JR's website. The JRSC part number for the intake manifold for the GSR is 051-095. For the 99 Civic Si and ITR it's 051-264.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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also, correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't the coolant passages different as well? i don't know if it's different with the superchargers but at least on the oem design i believe they are different.
Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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pr3 heads from the b16/type R have a different bolt pattern from the p72's found on the gsr head.

here you go search is your friend:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...t=b16+jrsc+gsr

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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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the b18c1 is the only vtec head thats the oddball out. the b16's, b17's and b18c5's are identical.

you might have a b17 gsr, b17 gsr's can use the b16 im
Old Nov 28, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nix94delsol
http://shopping.lightningmotorsports...productid=1542

then why is this pretty much generic?
http://shopping.lightningmotorsports...?productid=136

Take a look at that - "Fits B18C1 Engines only". You really should go look at that head you have, see what code is cast into it. I'm betting its not a GSR, more like a B16 with welded chaimbers. We need more doctors like you, our population is getting too high.

OP - it won't bolt on right. You'll have to do a whole lot of crap to make it work, and will be cheaper to sell if off and buy the right kit.
Old Nov 28, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Post this in Forced Induction unless you're satisfied with the answers you've gotten. This forum is fairly useless on technical questions like this because its full of whiners, name-callers and people who simply have no idea. Go to the technical forums for technical questions...
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