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(pending) PO170 Code...dont know what it means?

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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ok, so my car is throwing the PO172 code which means its running too rich. but now it has a pending code for PO170. and it says fuel trim malfunction? the only thing i have on my car is the J's racing intake, 4-1 headers and exhaust. why would this happen? its not a code yet, but what could i do to fix it? i dont have a V-AFC either, and its ODB2. i dont really know what to do? any suggestions?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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no one has an answer?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by em1gangsta
no one has an answer?

Have you checked fuel pressure?? also what model and year??
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by em1gangsta
ok, so my car is throwing the PO172 code which means its running too rich. but now it has a pending code for PO170. and it says fuel trim malfunction? the only thing i have on my car is the J's racing intake, 4-1 headers and exhaust. why would this happen? its not a code yet, but what could i do to fix it? i dont have a V-AFC either, and its ODB2. i dont really know what to do? any suggestions?

the ecu watches ur o2 sensor input to manage your fuel trim.. put a scanner on the car, go to datastream,, and monitor the signal.....
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:14 AM
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ALL DATA lists the possible causes as:

1. fuel pressure regulator
2. fuel return pipe clogged
3. fuel injector leaking
4. primary (upstream) h02s deteriorated
5. MAP sensor performance
6. EGR insufficient flow
7. EVAP purge valve leaking
8. valve clearance


due to the lack of any other codes i would start with the upstream sensor FIRST!!!
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wrenchez81
ALL DATA lists the possible causes as:

1. fuel pressure regulator
2. fuel return pipe clogged
3. fuel injector leaking
4. primary (upstream) h02s deteriorated
5. MAP sensor performance
6. EGR insufficient flow
7. EVAP purge valve leaking
8. valve clearance


due to the lack of any other codes i would start with the upstream sensor FIRST!!!
Well this is a good little list but there are still other things that could still cause a rich condition and as far as the fuel trim malfunction code. all that means is that it is maxed out and still cant correct the condition so. something like this will require a scan tool and basic knowlage of engine diagnostics. you may find something with the fpr but otherwise I would get a scan tool and go that route.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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P0170 is just a general DTC that is stored before the actual DTC- P0172.

When Short Term Fuel Trim falls below .85(85% fuel delivery of normal), than a P0172 code is thrown.

I usually find either a problem with ECT(Engine Coolant Temp sensor output) or incorrect valve lash. It could be faulty ignition tune parts, O2 sensor, etc.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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wow. thats a lot of things that it could be. so should i get a scanner diagnostic tool and run it to see how everthing is running? Becuase i have one of thse that my friend gave me. so ima do that first? any other suggestions?
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