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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Since i have own my car i have changed the transmission fluid 2 times and it still feels notchy when they say that integra transmission holds 2.3 quarts does that mean 2 3/10th or 2 3/4 quarts? because i have been pouring 2 3/4 quarts and im beginning to think that im overfilling it any suggestions because im going to change the fluid tommorrow thanks in advance. Plus first time i used pennzoil synchromesh and second time i used Honda MTF.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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2.3 means 2 and 3/10
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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2.3 means 2 and 3/10
okay thats what i thought so when i overfill my tranny does that make it notchy?
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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When you put crap in the transmission that it wasn't made for, shifting could actually feel smoother and mess things up. Pennzoil is 75w-90 weight and that is not the correct weight. Use Honda MTF, and change it a few more times to try to get the synthetic crap out of there. But use Mobil1 full synthetic for your engine all the way!

For example, drive around at full operating temp and go through each gear at least 20 times to mix it up as much as possible. Then change with Honda MTF, 2.3 quarts. Buy a magnetic drain plug for the tranny while you're at it; I have a Blox magentic drain plug set. You must remember that when you fill up the fluid, it does not mix a lot unless you shift a lot at full operating temp, since the fill line is at the bottom of the shaft seals(they're splash seals, and are not supposed to be submerged in fluid).
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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When you put crap in the transmission that it wasn't made for, shifting could actually feel smoother and mess things up. Pennzoil is 75w-90 weight and that is not the correct weight. Use Honda MTF, and change it a few more times to try to get the synthetic crap out of there. But use Mobil1 full synthetic for your engine all the way!

For example, drive around at full operating temp and go through each gear at least 20 times to mix it up as much as possible. Then change with Honda MTF, 2.3 quarts. Buy a magnetic drain plug for the tranny while you're at it; I have a Blox magentic drain plug set. You must remember that when you fill up the fluid, it does not mix a lot unless you shift a lot at full operating temp, since the fill line is at the bottom of the shaft seals(they're splash seals, and are not supposed to be submerged in fluid).
Pennzoil Synchromesh is not 75W - 90, and its not synthetic either. The info is found below. I believe you were thinking of the gear oil when talking about 75W - 90. I use 10W - 30 shell fire and ice motor oil in my B series transmissions without a problem, but I would recommend a synchromesh or Honda MTF.

Pennzoil® Synchromesh Fluid

Pennzoil® Synchromesh Fluid is a synchromesh transmission fluid designed for certain manual transaxles and manual transmissions used by General Motors or Chrysler. Pennzoil® Synchromesh Fluid is formulated with high-quality paraffinic base stocks, a fluidity modifier, multifunctional performance additives, corrosion inhibitors, a foam suppressor and a shear stable viscosity index improver additive. It provides excellent oxidation stability, low-temperature performance, excellent synchronizer performance and compatibility with yellow metals, such as bronze, brass and copper components found in manual transaxles and transmissions. This product will satisfactorily lubricate General Motors or Chrysler manual transaxles and transmissions from -40°C to +150°C.

Benefits:

Exhibits excellent low temperature performance.
Meets GM Specification 9985648 and Chrysler Specification MS-9224.
Suitable for use in GM manual transaxles and transmissions requiring GM Part No. 12345349 or 12345577.
Suitable for use in Chrysler transaxles and transmissions requiring Part No. 4874464.
Excellent synchronizer performance.
Excellent yellow metal compatibility.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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My apologies for the misinformation on that product.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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all you have to know to fill your tranny is what kind of mtf you want to use. I dont use Honda MTF, i just used what the guy at the speed-shop reccomended, and it works fine. I think its 70w-90 or somthing like that. buy 3 quarts. make sure drain plug is installed tightly. open upper plug (directly above it) pour desired MTF into it until it starts to pour out on itself (no more will go in because it winds up on the floor or on you), wait for it to stop coming out. Viola- 2.3 quarts. The Acura Service manual says to do it this way essentially. To check it, remove upper plug, stick finger in to see if level of MTF is at the bottom of plug hole. done. Replace plug. hope that helps any. Corey
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 03:05 AM
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all you have to know to fill your tranny is what kind of mtf you want to use. I dont use Honda MTF, i just used what the guy at the speed-shop reccomended, and it works fine. I think its 70w-90 or somthing like that. buy 3 quarts. make sure drain plug is installed tightly. open upper plug (directly above it) pour desired MTF into it until it starts to pour out on itself (no more will go in because it winds up on the floor or on you), wait for it to stop coming out. Viola- 2.3 quarts. The Acura Service manual says to do it this way essentially. To check it, remove upper plug, stick finger in to see if level of MTF is at the bottom of plug hole. done. Replace plug. hope that helps any. Corey
Gear oil is not recommended in Honda transmissions...and if you have 75W-90 its def. gear oil. Just check the manual!
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Time to pour in some GM friction modified Synchromesh or Penzoil Synchromesh. I've used Penzoil Synchromesh on my last 2 cars, both which grind in certain gears / felt notchy before the Synchromesh. Afterwards all gears feel 10X smoother going in/out of, and no more grinds. It's only a bandaid, but who cares. It works for the time being until you save up enough funds for new synchros or a new tranny.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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I don't think people are talking about notchy shifting here...most people are just talking about their synchros being bad...notchy shifting is a diferent thing altogether. Just a random thought!


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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by weavertime1
I don't think people are talking about notchy shifting here...most people are just talking about their synchros being bad...notchy shifting is a diferent thing altogether. Just a rando thought!
Well senior, he did post "notchy" in his thread title.

To the OP, do you have an aftermarket short shifter installed on your car? If so, that may be the culprit of your notchy feeling.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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i don't have a short shifter i know what you mean because my other integra had one it was so rough shifting gears. when i bought my car it shitfted like butter and then after changing the fluid with synchromesh it became rough and thats how its always been since.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by b18c1vtecdc2
i don't have a short shifter i know what you mean because my other integra had one it was so rough shifting gears. when i bought my car it shitfted like butter and then after changing the fluid with synchromesh it became rough and thats how its always been since.
That's strange. Why did you use synchromesh in the first place if your shifts were smooth as butter to begin with? People only use synchromesh when they're experiencing grinding issues going into gear.

Try using GM "FM" Synchromesh to see if that helps, if not... hopefully someone else can help you.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaQup

Well senior, he did post "notchy" in his thread title.

To the OP, do you have an aftermarket short shifter installed on your car? If so, that may be the culprit of your notchy feeling.
Why the funny guy act?...just clearing up a commonly misused term in the trasmission world that was starting to appear on this post. BTW...I have worked on an owned more Hondas in the last month than you will in your life, so I guess "Senior" works real well!
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by weavertime1

Why the funny guy act?...just clearing up a commonly misused term in the trasmission world that was starting to appear on this post. BTW...I have worked on an owned more Hondas in the last month than you will in your life, so I guess "Senior" works real well!
Take a chill pill Peter Pan. There was nothing funny about my response. Senior in Spanish means Sir! So you Sir need to relax.

Please excuse my Spanish spelling if I had it incorrectly, it's been 13 years since HS Spanish class.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Peter Pan...I do not wear tights...anymore.
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