building a poormans typer r. i have block, head, and everything ready to go just need o know 3 things wat wiring harness, wat belt, and wat head bolts

 

A type r timing belt would be the best bet, but I would think that a gsr timing belt would also work. As for a harness any b series vtec harness should work, although you'll have to make some length adjustments on certain ones I would guess. It also depends on what ecu you plan to run. If you are running OBD-2 you obviously need an OBD-2 wiring harness. As for head bolts I believe you use the gsr head bolts, although I would recommend STUDS while you have everything apart.

 

you'll also need a vtec timing belt and vtec water pump. maybe a oil pump for a gsr.

 

which head/block are you using?

id go with arp head studs/bolts

 

I already said that...and you can't use a B16 timing belt as it will not be long enough. Also all water pumps are the same in a b series as far as I know, and oil pumps are the same between the models, although the newer versions are improved in '98 and up b series engines!


He already said he was building a poor man's type R = B18C block with some sort of high comp. pistons (P30, P73, etc.) and a B16/type r head with type r internals.

 

well i have heard of people builds calling them "poor mans r" differently as well..

b18c block with R head or b16 block and R head etc....

so i was wanting to clarify

 

A Type R is a 1.8 liter so bulding one with a b16 block would just be a B16 with type r internals (valves, cams, valve springs, retainers) in the head.

Also, the Type R and B16 heads are of the same casting...just different internals and maybe minor porting differences.

Another note: If you can afford an R head, the setup probably wouldn't be called a poor man's Type R. The way to save money is by getting a cheaper B16 head and finding a complete set of ITR head internals, thereby saving money over just buying a Type R head. Since many of these parts are getting so cheap these days, you might just as well find a type r head instead of going through the hassle of finding the B16 head and seperate Type R internals. For reference I just sold a complete Type R head for $700.


Modified by weavertime1 at 8:52 AM 11/10/2008

 

ok so i need a gsr belt and any vtec wiring harness and im gonna use arp head studs but i need to know do i use b16 or b18 head studs

 

ok i got the belt and wiring harness but wat about the arp head studs do i use b16 or b18 arp head studs

 

Are you using a gsr block? If so then use gsr head studs!