Before I ask, I already have my flame suit on ^_^ Ok, I have an 07 civic lx, tein basic suspension, dropped about 2 inches, still have an inch gap, now I already know about me ruining my suspension geometry, just anwser my ? pls, bc im military and i dont make to much money lol Im going to keep the tein basics on, but i was wondering if its possible to switch out the spring itself? say with a tein spring that drops 1.5 in, now, if the coilover is set at maximum ride height, does that mean i still be dropped 1.5 bc of the spring? AND, does the 1.5 drop of the spring mean that at the lowest coil over setting(tein basic 2in) it will add the extra 1.5inch drop? Thanks for any feedback, i'll eventually just switch the coilovers out, its just ima run these till they give

 

what kinda car do you drive? 2 inch drop on an 06+ civic should be dumped.

 

07 civic lx, on 16in slipstreams(i know there gay) lol its not dumped, its low, but still has an inch or so gap

 

im on comptech springs and stock struts and i barely have a finger gap. they are rated at 1"/1.25" drop. a 2" drop should be slammed".

i believe you can switch out spings...dunno whats involved with it.

 

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Then it's not a 2" drop.

 

TRUST ME....rico its a 2 inch drop....i just want it to be tuckin a 16in rim, the rate on these things is like 2.2' or 2 ' drop....but all im looking for is an anwser to my ?'s, if you dont have an anwser try to keep the comments minimum

im in guam right now...heres my car



Modified by SpeedJunkie101 at 6:35 PM 10/21/2008

 

Measured from stock.....THIS is exactly a 2.1" drop from top of the fender to center of the cap. The rear is about a 1.8" drop.





What's the exact size of your tire? Do you have the Tein basics lowered all the way?? I've never seen what you are asking done....it may work....but then again it might hinder the lowering ability of the Tein basics even further. As it is the way the vehicle suspension is set up it makes the rear very hard to lower. On my car the rear is as low as it can go and yet the front is only about a little more than half way lowered.

 

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What's the exact size of your tire?
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This is what I'd like to know.

 

Oh and by the way.....your Tein Basics for YOUR vehicle are rated at maximum -1.7" drop front and -1.2" drop on the back. For the Si the drop ranges are a little higher. Not sure why since the part numbers are the same.....but that's what Tein's official web site is stating on their product application chart.

http://www.tein.com/products/basic_price_list.html

Because coilovers usually offer a higher drop range than springs by themselves, they usually come with stiffer spring rates than traditional drop springs. So putting a spring with a softer spring rate on the coilover setup (if it will even fit) could give you more problems regarding popping noises, bottoming out, etc. And since you have no dampening adjustment.....you have no way to counteract any of it.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong.




Modified by RICO_ at 8:26 AM 10/22/2008

 

^The difference in height change could be due to the si being a heavier car comparable to the non-si's while the c/o system uses the same dampening and spring rates.

OP: you would have to switch to a stiffer spring rate to maintain the ride height you want while also maintaining the same c/o perch settings. The option springs that you can change out only differ in their spring rates (kg/m) and not on length. The stiffer the spring rate, the more force it takes to compress, therefore you will be riding at marginally higher ride height overall. If you set the system at max/min ride height, you would have the same range of adjustability as your current springs because the spring can only travel so much along the strut body and because they'll be the same length as your current springs.

 

thaaannnks to everyone for the replies, and rico, my exact tire size is 205 45 16 with a 16x7 rim, and i do have tein basics lowered all the way, and as far as my vehicles rates and a si's, there the same thing, when i got my box of tein coilovers, it had 06-08 si suspension labels all over it, turns out it fits an lx with no problems.

k5- thanks for your input, so maybe ill just have to switch out the whole damn suspension again. damn!

 

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If you look at the link I posted you can see the difference from the Si drop and the FG1 drop ranges. I don't know why the ranges are different since the spring rates are the same along with the part number....but they are.

Your gap most likely would be contributed to the fact that you have a non-OEM tire size. OEM size is 205/<FONT COLOR="red">55</FONT>/16. Since you have a 45 profile....your overall tire diameter is 1.6" smaller than that of your OEM size. I'm willing to bet THAT'S where your gap is coming from.


Modified by RICO_ at 6:45 PM 10/22/2008

 

understood, but i dont want to change the tire size to a fat *** tire, im keeping everything the same, i just wanted to lose the gap by making the car even lower without changing the suspension again, i figured changing the spring would save me money rather than purchasing another set



Modified by SpeedJunkie101 at 2:22 AM 10/23/2008

 

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I'm afraid you'll most likely end up with more problems if you try to do that. Even if the regular Tein drop springs fit on the coilover setup....they have a softer spring rate and would likely cause more issues for you.

If you managed to tuck a 16" wheel like you want to do....you would have so many issues over small bumps and waves in the road that you could very easily destroy your front lip, your fenders, or even crack your oil pan. Your car looks really good as it is right now. May not be "tucked", but it is nice and low. I wouldn't trip over it too much.

But if you absolutely wanted to do it.....then it will cost you a pretty penny. Not even the Tein Super Streets will give you the drop you want....they're rated the same as the Tein basics in terms of drop ranges. The Tein Flex; however, gives you an extra 0.7" drop in the front and 0.6" drop in the back over the previous two. But that's a **** load of money and a pretty stiff and bouncy ride as well.


Modified by RICO_ at 4:51 AM 10/23/2008