has anyone fabricated their own adapter or a short shofter??is it possible?

 

Out of curiosity, why would you bother when there are great shifters available already? And certainly it's possible if you have the resources and design skills.

 

There are two different Shifters available. And these are not adapters.

http://www.ForbiddenMotorSports.com
http://www.PSpecTuning.com

PSpec has discontinued the 4thGen Shifter though, I purchased the last 4thGen Shifter and the last Shift ****.
But it is still possible to use the 5thGen Shifter with additional mods.


And these were designed by a person, not by a company.

 

Ive heard nothing but good things about the Forbidden. I ordered one over two weeks ago and still no recieved it tho.


Forbidden: If you see this let me know whats up!!! Ive tried to email you several times and tried to PM you!

 

I <3 my 4bidden.

As a side note G2, I believe he states it takes 2-3 weeks on it. He built mine strictly for my order and took close to 3 weeks (build > powdercoating > shipping)

 

I recently installed a Pspec and it's awesome. Couldn't ask for a higher quality piece IMO. Highly recommended if you own a 5th gen.

 

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IIRC, they are all built to order...

 

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As a side note G2, I believe he states it takes 2-3 weeks on it. He built mine strictly for my order and took close to 3 weeks (build &gt; powdercoating &gt; shipping)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I love mine too, Except I put mine in and went to the track, missed third gear
and it costed me first place because I wasn't used to it. I should of had a 4ft trophy
instead of a 2 ft one

They're great though

 

nahh like instead of spendin the money i didnt know if you could just make your own for free and i didnt know if someone has done it before....

 

ahh, i didnt know it took so long. I wish he would have responded to one of my emails to let me know.

 

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Hit up his HT name I think it's 4bidden?

 

He has a website at 4biddenmotorsports.com. Make sure you get an address and/or phone # before you pay. Jeremy has been notorious for long waits and non response to emails/pms. I ordered a shifter about 2 1/2 mos. ago and can't get a response for a requested ship date. Paypal funds are gone and the Paypal acct. is empty. I got a response from him over a month ago when he said "yes I'm still in business". That was after about 5 emails/pms with no response for weeks. Don't know if he is in So. Cal. or Phoenix area but have some contacts in both areas and will look him up if I don't hear back in a few weeks.

 

This thread is five months old..

And he used to have great customer service and quick response.. Something's up that's changed, I dunno what it is though..

On an older point.. I didn't think Jeremy's Shifters were built to order since he had them massed produced....

 

Since the op was looking for a cheaper solution, might I suggest this?

http://www.ntpog.org/mods/fifth-****/****.shtml

 

Well that is just "shortening the shifter" not actually shortening the throw of it...I am also curious what is modified to shorten the throw on these shifters...

I am converting to a cable shift for a 4wd conversion...I know with the solid linkage Honda shifters you shorten the throw by increasing the length below the pivot point...

I assume to shorten the throw with the cable shifters you are relocating the mounting points of the cables to the shifter, does anyone have some good info on what is done to reduce the actual throw and not just suggesting buy an new shifter...

To the OP if he is still interest it is possible to do cheaply we just need to figure out where the cables are relocated on the shifter...in the subaru I owned the pivot was at the bottom of the shifter and by moving the linkage mount points up slightly you would shorten your throw, I imagine this is the same here, would just like someone to confirm this...

Thanks...Matt

 

by doing some quick searches it looks like these brackets that claim to shorten the throw do in fact raise the cable mounting point up...



so to anyone looking to make their own you could make something that clamps onto the shifter then has a mount for the cable to mount it above the stock mount and you would shorten your throw...if you can weld like I can you can just cut the mount off and raise it up slightly and reweld in on...then if you want the shifter rod shorter cut and rethread like the other link that was posted...

HTH

 

Nuespeed also makes an adapter plate.. It works but it's 90$ don't think its worth it If you could make one

 

loserkidwac, just to clarify, if you shorten the height of the shift lever, you also shorten its throw. it's all mathematical. the length of the radius (lever/rod) directly effects the length of the arc that the **** travels on.

that's how short shift adapters work. they move the shift linkage point higher on the lever making it travel a farther distance (on its arc) than it would have if it was lower on the same lever.

physics tells us that if you shorten a lever though, you will need to apply more force to move it the same distance before shortening it. that's why anytime you shorten the height,it will feel stiffer.


but from your second post it seems you understand the basic principle of the short throw adapters. so to get the shortest throw possible without paying $200 bucks, you would need to purchase one of these generic adapters and also shorten the lever like the ntpog link.

to avoid buying those adapters, that do work contrary to mass repeated hearsay, you can make your own little fugly bracket thing and weld it on. just look up pictures of the Lean short shifter and you'll see just how easy it really is to make one. assuming you have access to a welder that is.

irregardless of what you do, you always need to trim the plastic shift boot holder where the 3rd and 5th gear positions may make the shift cables touch it. that's the only reason generic adapters cause problems because people don't address that issue and so they say it feels notchy or stiff.


one last thing to consider when making your own, is the correct placement of the adapter if you made it yourself. if it's crooked or designed poorly, the shift lever may not sit in the middle at neutral anymore since the cables itself determine where the lever rests and not the lever rests. so if you do like you said and unweld the stock cable link holder and move it up, you would also need to move it forward otherwise the lever will lean forward.

 

oh, the second reason adapters cause problems is because some people think that cause their throw is shorter, they can do it harder and faster as if their synchros got better. abusing the tranny is easier after shortening the throw, so it leads to problems. the throw is shorter, so shifting normally will still result in shorter throws. so, shift normally, not fast and furiously