K24 vs B20B
Hey i am looking to swap my engine in spring. I was looking at getting the B20B. I was going to look into buying the engine or buying a crv from mpi. I found a 2002 crv the body is crap but the engine is mint. So I was wondering. Is it alot harder to swap in a B20B compared to a K24? Thanks
you have to factor in what you want your car to do go only in a straight line or go around turns a 2.4 liter is a big big motor you gonna get a lot of under steer with that i would say just build the b20 with the money your gonna save
i thought the whole weight issue with the k motors was put to bed already?
as in it isnt enough to cause any concern.
also i was under the impression that the size of your motor had no impact on understeer.
regardless you can tune the steering to neutral anyway.
once again the only two questions that matter when it comes to motor selection are
1. what are you going to do with your car
2. how fast can you afford to go
if you are like 99% of the people here you arent going to race your car. taking it to the strip once a year isnt racing btw. 99% of the people here just want to have something cool to show their friends. in that case it really doesnt matter what is best. it only matters what your friends think is best, and what is one step up from what they all have.
as in it isnt enough to cause any concern.
also i was under the impression that the size of your motor had no impact on understeer.
regardless you can tune the steering to neutral anyway.
once again the only two questions that matter when it comes to motor selection are
1. what are you going to do with your car
2. how fast can you afford to go
if you are like 99% of the people here you arent going to race your car. taking it to the strip once a year isnt racing btw. 99% of the people here just want to have something cool to show their friends. in that case it really doesnt matter what is best. it only matters what your friends think is best, and what is one step up from what they all have.
it sounds like the k24 is alot more work. Ill talk to my buddy whos going to do the work in swapping it. I think i am going to stick with the b20b. IF there are any more tips or anything involving the k24 let me know thanks alot!
The K24 is NOT a lot more work and is NOT a lot (if any) heaver then the B20.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the whole weight issue with the k motors was put to bed already?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It was been time and time again, the K20 is roughly 4 lbs lighter then the B18C5 so take that into consideration. And what car is this going into? The only down side I see to the K24 is the block is too tall, it will not fit under a EF hood.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the whole weight issue with the k motors was put to bed already?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It was been time and time again, the K20 is roughly 4 lbs lighter then the B18C5 so take that into consideration. And what car is this going into? The only down side I see to the K24 is the block is too tall, it will not fit under a EF hood.
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On the weight issue, I do not like the way that the K series moves the weight to the nose of the car. A B series weight sits further back in the engine bay. A K maybe lighter and more powerful but I do not like the changes in vehicle dynamics.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the weight issue, I do not like the way that the K series moves the weight to the nose of the car. A B series weight sits further back in the engine bay. A K maybe lighter and more powerful but I do not like the changes in vehicle dynamics. </TD></TR></TABLE>
^^^What he said^^^
I miss your nuggets of wisdom
^^^What he said^^^
I miss your nuggets of wisdom
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_ED8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The K24 is NOT a lot more work </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would have to respectfully disagree with that.. b20 uses bolt in mounts. that alone is a lot less drama, on top of the fact you don't need custom axles and the wiring is a lot less drama.
k-series is only for people who either A) have $8k-$9k to throw at the car or B) a veteran honda swapper that knows the car inside and out, and still has atleast $5k to do the job, and a lot of patience..
for newb friendliness, i have to say the b20 is the way to go. the k is hands down a better engine though, and worth every penny...
I would have to respectfully disagree with that.. b20 uses bolt in mounts. that alone is a lot less drama, on top of the fact you don't need custom axles and the wiring is a lot less drama.
k-series is only for people who either A) have $8k-$9k to throw at the car or B) a veteran honda swapper that knows the car inside and out, and still has atleast $5k to do the job, and a lot of patience..
for newb friendliness, i have to say the b20 is the way to go. the k is hands down a better engine though, and worth every penny...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the weight issue, I do not like the way that the K series moves the weight to the nose of the car. A B series weight sits further back in the engine bay. A K maybe lighter and more powerful but I do not like the changes in vehicle dynamics. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If they ever sort that out though.
If they ever sort that out though.
There is a lot of good info and opinions in where but it all boils down to:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the only two questions that matter when it comes to motor selection are
1. what are you going to do with your car
2. how fast can you afford to go</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the only two questions that matter when it comes to motor selection are
1. what are you going to do with your car
2. how fast can you afford to go</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_ED8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only down side I see to the K24 is the block is too tall, it will not fit under a EF hood.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What about the jdm sir crx hood? its a scoop instead of the usdm inverted hood. Just seeing if anyone would know
What about the jdm sir crx hood? its a scoop instead of the usdm inverted hood. Just seeing if anyone would know
I'm not sure but I don't think the sir hood will clear, but I could be wrong (I've never seen a EF with a K24). Check out K20a.org
http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php
You will find better answers there
.
http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php
You will find better answers there
.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_ED8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure but I don't think the sir hood will clear, but I could be wrong (I've never seen a EF with a K24). Check out K20a.org
http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php
You will find better answers there
.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks!
http://www.k20a.org/forum/index.php
You will find better answers there
.</TD></TR></TABLE>thanks!
You gots money go K-series........heres a few teasers pictures of my buddies cars.....
If you are on a buget go b20.....All these cars swithcover from b-series to k motors and they love there new set ups.........
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