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New tires, now the car handles worse, whats up?

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Default New tires, now the car handles worse, whats up?

Ok so here is the story, was driving Wednesday and noticed the car wasn't riding right, pulled over noticed nothing, continued on same thing. Pull over again and noticed my right rear tire was really low. Stopped at a gas station tried to put air in the tire, and nothing. So luckily there was a Firestone just down the street, he takes the tire off and i knew there was going to be negative camber wear, sure enough there was it was down to the wire in some spots, but the quarter inch hole in the side wall didn't help either. So he slaps on the donut, seeing how i had 45 min to get to work. Next day i take the car to Discount Tire. I figured its pointless to just replace one tire so i replace both the back tires. The front tires are less than a year old, so they where fine.

Now I've never replaced just 2 tires on any car I've owned its always been all 4 at once. I asked the tech of the 2 new tires should be put on the front and rotate the fronts to the back. He says no i should keep the new tires in the back, to keep the back end from sliding out in turns, rain, or snow. So its been 4 days now driving on the new tires, and now the car handles worse than before. The car is real loose in turns now, where before I could take a turn or off ramp, or cut in and out of traffic and the car would hold the road. Now I have alot of body roll, even when changing lanes at like 70mph. I don't enjoy driving it at all.

So whats up? Do i just need to wait for the new tread on the tires to wear in, should the new tires be on the front, i didn't buy the best tires, do to funding so could it be shitty tires, any help would be great!

They had 3 brands available in 195/55 R15, the cheapest in price they where out of stock so the next one up is what i purchased, here is a link to the tires:

http://www.discounttire.com/dt...ar=55
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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The most obvious possible reason is that the new tires are a lower level of performance than your old ones. Mismatched tires (different make/model tires on the same car) can result in unpredictable/undesirable handling. What make/model of tire are the old ones and the new ones? (If they're the "Arizonian" tires shown in your link, I've never tried them, but my experiences with off-brand tires like these have been consistently dreadful.)

As for the question of where to put the new tires when buying a pair, there are reasons to put them at either end. Tire dealers often recommend putting them on the rear, because the greater grip in the rear will tend to cause understeer in handling (the condition in which the car tends to plow straight ahead when you turn the wheel), which some consider "safer" than oversteer (the condition in which the back end tends to swing around on you when you turn). On FWD cars (like most of ours), I prefer to put the tires with more tread depth (including new tires) on the front, where they will wear quicker, so that all four tires will wear out at roughly the same time, so that I can replace them as a set. Your choice.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Thanks for the info! Yeah the new rear tires are the Arizonian from the link. The old rear tires where BF Goodrich, not sure of the model. The front tires on the car are (Fuzion) tires, that the previous owner put on 2 months before I got the car in March.

I just moved 2 weeks ago, so money is pretty tight right now, and I was planning on going into winter mode come next month (october) wasn't planning on having this happen.

So I'm thinking (a) I go back and see if i can work something out for a different set of tires, or (b) rotate them to the front and see what happens.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Frankly, I think the problem isn't going to go away if you switch them to the front. All that's going to do is make your car understeer instead of oversteer.

I would try to work something out so that you get two tires to match your other two (Fuzions). Your best bet is to get the same tires, if possible; otherwise, look for tires that are similar in performance, etc. If they're the Fuzion ZRi, that's a very good summer tire; if they don't have those, similar tires include the Yokohama S.drive and Kumho SPT, so you ought to be able to mix any of those without too detrimental an effect on handling. If they're the Fuzion HRi, that's an okay all-season tire, and if you have to buy two other tires to use with them, consider the Bridgestone G019 or G009.

Good luck.
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