Tech / Misc Tech topics that don't seem to go elsewhere.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:43 PM
  #1  
91' LS-VTEC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,842
Likes: 0
From: Eastern, WA, USA
Default Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal???

I have a B16 thats having a probleming bogging @ WOT. So after replacing pretty much everything I can think of. I did a leakdown test.

Results:
1-25%
2-45%
3-27%
4-35%

My freind that did the test said it isn't that bad of results. Shouldn't be the reason for bogging. We could feel the air leaking out from the VC breather,and the cams where still installed, when test was done.

My Q? is whats normal, if this isn't "that bad".
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 10:17 PM
  #2  
WERA689's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 69
Likes: 1
From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (91' LS-VTEC)

Either you did the test wrong, or your motor is pretty worn out! Leakdowns should be below 10%, worst case. Generally, a fresh motor will leak down around 2%.
If you did the test correctly (with each cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke), you can listen at the air cleaner, exhaust pipe and dipstick to hear where the leaks lead.
If you hear air at the intake, intake valves are worn and not sealing.
If you hear air at the exhaust, ex valves are worn and not sealing.
If you hear air at the dipstick, your rings are shot.

In any case, those numbers are very high! Good luck.
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 06:29 AM
  #3  
91' LS-VTEC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,842
Likes: 0
From: Eastern, WA, USA
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (WERA689)

well, the block has about 1200miles on it since the rebuild.

We had the dip stick out, and could hear air comming out of the dip stick hole.
What about when air comes out of the VC breather tube?
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 08:28 PM
  #4  
srmofo's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,590
Likes: 1
From: Ohio
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (91' LS-VTEC)

the breather tube and dipstick are both connected to the crankcase...which means rings...are you sure you did the test right? cause your buddy doesn't know what the hell he is doing if he thinks those numbers are normal. Whats the compression at?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:15 AM
  #5  
blackeg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,820
Likes: 12
From: schooling kids in ny, usa
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (srmofo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WERA689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Either you did the test wrong, or your motor is pretty worn out! Leakdowns should be below 10%, worst case. Generally, a fresh motor will leak down around 2%.
In any case, those numbers are very high! Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ive never had a motor with 2% and they have all made hundreds of horsepower and ran fine. even on my leakdown gauge up to 20% is low and something i wouldnt worry about, especially if your compression is good.

if the compression is low and you are pulling over 20% leakdown then id be worried.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WERA689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you hear air at the intake, intake valves are worn and not sealing.
If you hear air at the exhaust, ex valves are worn and not sealing.
If you hear air at the dipstick, your rings are shot.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

take the valvecover off when you do it, that way you can put your hand/ear over the crank vents from the head to the block and see if its rings better
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 06:11 AM
  #6  
91' LS-VTEC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,842
Likes: 0
From: Eastern, WA, USA
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (blackeg)

havn't had achance to do the c/r test. I'll do it this weekend. I'll have my buddy try the leakdown again, or I'll just pay a shop. See what they come up with.

As for the block. It has about 1200 miles since the rebuild. Maybe the rings didn't seat right.

I still don't understand why it bogs under WOT thow.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:11 AM
  #7  
EKFerioHawaii's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
From: I think fat chicks are hot and yummy.
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (91' LS-VTEC)

Did you get a chance to remedy the problem?

Inquiring mind wants to know
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:27 PM
  #8  
WERA689's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 69
Likes: 1
From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (EKFerioHawaii)

Yeah, we do! Shirley he's diagnosed it by now?
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:49 PM
  #9  
91' LS-VTEC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,842
Likes: 0
From: Eastern, WA, USA
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (EKFerioHawaii)

sorry guys. I never got a chance to find out what it was. Insted I pulled the motor out lastnight. I'm shipping the head off this week to get a little PnP, and the block is getting rebuilt as well.

I did put in a SOHC into the car, and will fire it up later this week.
I never understood why my B16 was bogging @ WOT. If it is the wireing, i'm shure it will happen with this SOHC.

I'll update as I find out more info.

All comments weclomed.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:50 PM
  #10  
mmuller's Avatar
Mad Scientist
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,827
Likes: 1
From: tallafizzy, FL state
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (91' LS-VTEC)

u did good because those leakdown # are crap.
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:41 AM
  #11  
91' LS-VTEC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,842
Likes: 0
From: Eastern, WA, USA
Default Re: Leakdown Test #'s. high? low? normal??? (mmuller)

I'll took the head of the block lastnight. I'll post pics up later today.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Prudz_lude
Honda Prelude
2
Dec 1, 2009 04:51 PM
civtic
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Mar 8, 2008 10:59 AM
bigbadboy
Forced Induction
9
May 3, 2007 07:11 PM
blowbyu24
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
Feb 5, 2007 10:44 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:57 AM.