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Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped?

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Default Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped?

This has bothered me for a long time since I keep seeing non-vtec 5th gens (LX) with tachs that have a redline (not rev limit) of 6,400 or something. Mine for some reason shows a redline of 7,200 rpm and was wondering if any 5th gen LX's ever came with 7,200 rpm with a D15B7 engine in it. Here is my tach. I know I have the white indiglo guages but if I pull them out, the stock guages are EXACTLY the same as my indiglo guages which also showed a 7,200 rpm redline. My rev limit/cutoff is at 6,800 like normal for a non-vtec engine.

If my cluster was swapped, this makes me really wonder about my real mileage. According to carfax the mileage seems to go in order, but the car was in a wreck and hadn't been driven for YEARS so there was a gap from 35,000 miles then jumps to 76,000 miles. I bought the car with 76,000 miles in 2002. I driven double the mileage since I've had it. Could my cluster have been swapped out for an EX cluster by someone else by any chance? EX cluster and LX cluster I would assume are exactly the same except for the redlines.


Here is a pic of someone else's tach I saw




And here is a pic of my tach currently (Remember, under the white guages my tach still reads a redline of 7,200)



Another pic of my cluster






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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped? (sageuvagony)

Someone could have just put the gauge faces (from an EX) on. If you remove the tach face, you could have a redline of 6500 rpms.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped? (BlueIntegraBoy)

There was only one face on it when I installed the indiglo face. Right now I have the white guage face sitting on top of the original face. This car was owned by a priest by the way. The wreck that this car had caused my car to have a salvage title. My front right end was hit. The passenger door isn't even from this car. It's from a green civic (noticed when I removed my door panel)

So NO automatic 1992 Civic LX 4-door came with a 7,200 redline? The car is manual now (not that it matters for this topic anyway)
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped? (sageuvagony)

So, original face has a 7200 rpm redline? Then the cluster isn't stock.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped? (BlueIntegraBoy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, original face has a 7200 rpm redline? Then the cluster isn't stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Argh that's what I was afraid of. Now that just makes me question the mileage. Carfax doesn't indicate any foul play with the odometer. I'm going to try to look up my carfax report and read the dates again. All I remembered is that the car had a 35,000 mile to 76,000 mile jump. The 76,000 entry is when I bought the car.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Any way to find out if cluster has been swapped? (sageuvagony)

Found my carfax report.

1992 HONDA CIVIC LX
1HGEG8658NL030468
SEDAN 4 DR
1.5L L4 FI / FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
CARFAX Safety & Reliability Report

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The last reported odometer reading was 77,450

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Problem Found
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No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

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No frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

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No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

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No indication of an odometer rollback. No Issues Indicated

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See State DMV-reported Title Problems above. Alert!
Problem Found

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Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
06/11/1992 40 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #63419189 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
06/25/1992 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #63419189 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
11/06/1992 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #63419189 Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
09/01/1994 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #63419189 Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
02/12/2001 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0063419189 Title issued or updated
05/10/2001 77,226 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Altamonte Springs, FL
Title #0063419189 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
05/22/2001 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Altamonte Springs, FL
Title #0063419189 SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
06/21/2001 77,320 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0063419189 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
07/11/2001 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0063419189 SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
11/10/2001 77,450 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0063419189 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
12/14/2001 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0063419189 New owner reported
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
01/07/2003 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Tampa, FL
Title #0063419189 New owner reported
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Exempt from odometer reporting
Vehicle color noted as White
10/24/2003 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Tampa, FL
Title #0063419189 REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Exempt from odometer reporting
Vehicle color noted as White
09/15/2004 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Tampa, FL
Title #0063419189 REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Registered as
personal vehicle
Exempt from odometer reporting
Vehicle color noted as White
05/31/2005 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Tampa, FL
Title #0063419189 REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Registered as
personal vehicle
Exempt from odometer reporting
Vehicle color noted as White
03/21/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Tampa, FL
Title #0063419189 REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
Registered as
personal vehicle
Exempt from odometer reporting
Vehicle color noted as White
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