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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Ok. Heres the question:

I'm going to buy a F22 Block with 0 miles on it and build the motor from step 1.

The block will have 0 miles on it. My odometer reads almost 300k miles. After doing the swap will it still be illegal to move the odometer back to 0 miles. I understand from reading elsewhere that the tranmission stores information on the miles driven.

That should be fixed with getting a brand new transmission as I have been noticing that it's been slipping. My car is an auto and if I step on gas. The RPMs jump to like 4k when I'm doing like 20mph. I have to let go of the gas so the RPM can drop and then apply gas again.

Will this be illegal or justified. I remember seeing this video 2 days ago briefly where this guy took out the cluster and had a drill with some attachment attached and was rolling the odometer backwards. Thanks people.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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It's illegal to modify the odometer.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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But if I ever decided to sell my car. Someone would hesitate when they saw the mileage on the car. I know you could provide receipt but how would the person know if it's a low mileage motor?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Best bet is receipts of the work.

The same would apply.

If you show someone a car with 10 miles on the odo but the chassis has 300k miles - you have the same result. It's deceiving either way really.

I mean my H22 has ~50k miles on it but I have no way of proving it.Chassis has 217k now I believe.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best bet is receipts of the work.

The same would apply.

If you show someone a car with 10 miles on the odo but the chassis has 300k miles - you have the same result. It's deceiving either way really.

I mean my H22 has ~50k miles on it but I have no way of proving it.Chassis has 217k now I believe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, can't touch the odo. Lol at all the high milage chassis. My '97 only has 104k. But it spent the better part of 2 years being built so that's one reason. Plus its so heavily modded I really only drive it when my wife needs her car.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Thanks. It's going to hurt to look at that odometer when I'm done. : (
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gqstatus05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But if I ever decided to sell my car. Someone would hesitate when they saw the mileage on the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would hesitate if I saw an EXTREMELY low mileage as well, for a 12+ year old car.

if someone runs a carfax then it wont match, the title will have that marked against it when it gets registered next, etc.

just leave it alone and provide receipts, it's the best thing you can do.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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My odometer reads about 145k but the motor I have is from a wrecked prelude that had 7k miles on it. Oh well. I'd rather know for myself and provide the next owner with all the information and receipts of the work done than have the DMV suspect me and have me put in jail.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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What about when the odometer things go bad ?how do you go about to replace ?
cant you just put it at 0 and say you bought a new one to replace the non-working?

never had a prob with an odometer so I dont know much about how that works!
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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You're technically supposed to go to a Honda dealership and be in contact with DMV with it.

It can pop up as odometer fraud/rollback on like Carfax
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Are you sure that you want to put a new engine and transmission in a 12 year old car with 300,000 miles?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're technically supposed to go to a Honda dealership and be in contact with DMV with it.

It can pop up as odometer fraud/rollback on like Carfax</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didnt know that....pretty crazy.....I guess if it was that easy people would commit all kinds of fraud when they resell!

oh well scratch that!
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 03:33 AM
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I just thought of this last night, too tired to get on and post it. Ok if what I was implying is illegal. Wouldn't it be illegal to do a cluster swap on a CD5 that has less miles on it. Isn't that the same principal?

And yeah I was going to put another F22 in there and get another CD5. I'm in love with Emily but she's BI and wouldn't mind sharing me with another CD5.

I'm serious and joking guys, I'm currently looking for another CD5 coupe. I have a sedan now.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're technically supposed to go to a Honda dealership and be in contact with DMV with it.

It can pop up as odometer fraud/rollback on like Carfax</TD></TR></TABLE>

X2 even for an odo swap. You are "supposed" to report it to the DMV. Just because people don't doesn't make it legal. Not a good thing when you go to sell your car. The person does a check up on it and the odo numbers are lower. Fraud!
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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just buy a new cluster and go to the DMV and tell them you bought a new cluster. it is legal 2 change clusters
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