My buddy asked me to post this up for him, he has a b16a complete block he just purchased, but has his integra with an LS thats boosted. he just got done rebuilding his block on the LS due to cracked ringlands before he purchased the B16a block so he was wondering if the LS head will fit onto the B16A block so he can give the whole setup to his brother and he will still have the b16a head for his B18 block.

To put simpler just basically swapping both heads with each other, we already know what needs to be done to put the b16 head onto the LS but didnt know if their was anything that needed to be done to the B16 block to mount the LS head.

Thanks in Advance!

Brain

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brain909 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My buddy asked me to post this up for him, he has a b16a complete block he just purchased, but has his integra with an LS thats boosted. he just got done rebuilding his block on the LS due to cracked ringlands before he purchased the B16a block so he was wondering if the LS head will fit onto the B16A block so he can give the whole setup to his brother and he will still have the b16a head for his B18 block.

To put simpler just basically swapping both heads with each other, we already know what needs to be done to put the b16 head onto the LS but didnt know if their was anything that needed to be done to the B16 block to mount the LS head.

Thanks in Advance!

Brain</TD></TR></TABLE>
If anything i'd sell the b16 block, and get a b16 head or gsr head for a lsvtec setup..
your friend is dumb if he wants to put a ls head on a b16 block your destroking your 1.8liter motor btw.. justa fYI

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If anything i'd sell the b16 block, and get a b16 head or gsr head for a lsvtec setup..
your friend is dumb if he wants to put a ls head on a b16 block your destroking your 1.8liter motor btw.. justa fYI</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car the b16 block with the b18 head will just be a beater that his brother drives, he just wants to know if it will bolt on and run without much cash, dont care about the power whatsoever. he bought the b16 engine really cheap mainly for the head only but now he would like to give his bother the leftover parts basically. is it possible without much modifications?

 

I've always wondered about this too, everybody knows someone who either has a b16 bottom end or a b18a/b just collecting dust. Plenty of those to be had for cheap, b16 with the non vtec head wouldn't be superior to other b motors, but could be cheap and fun regardless.

 

One problem I can think of immediately is the dowel pins.

 

do it im interested on how it will come out power wise and for fuel economy. could be better than a hybrid. lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One problem I can think of immediately is the dowel pins.</TD></TR></TABLE>

next for me would be the vtec oil port, maybe plug it like a ls/vtec?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J_Marc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've always wondered about this too, everybody knows someone who either has a b16 bottom end or a b18a/b just collecting dust. Plenty of those to be had for cheap, b16 with the non vtec head wouldn't be superior to other b motors, but could be cheap and fun regardless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think it would be just like a dohc zc

 

Ls head on a B16 block would in essence create something <u>like</u> a ZC. Which unless boosted is pointless and is not something you want to build. Might as well go to a junkyard and pull one for like $50.

 

a zc is a d-series though, correct?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ncVTEC1313 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a zc is a d-series though, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes its a d-series

yes the head will work but gotta plug the block like you plug the head for ls/vtec
and you have to run a oil line to the head like you do for ls/vtec

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One problem I can think of immediately is the dowel pins.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you could use ge dowel pins

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brain909 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the car the b16 block with the b18 head will just be a beater that his brother drives, he just wants to know if it will bolt on and run without much cash, dont care about the power whatsoever. he bought the b16 engine really cheap mainly for the head only but now he would like to give his bother the leftover parts basically. is it possible without much modifications?</TD></TR></TABLE>

he's gonna need some sort of custom head gasket to fit the head on the b16 block. dowel pin alignment issues, oil return issues, coolant passage issues...too many small details that might cause a lot more problems later on. not worth it in my opinion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acydphryck &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

he's gonna need some sort of custom head gasket to fit the head on the b16 block. dowel pin alignment issues, oil return issues, coolant passage issues...too many small details that might cause a lot more problems later on. not worth it in my opinion. </TD></TR></TABLE>why? if you can use a ls or a vtec gasket on a non, vtec block, then why not reversed?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LA_HONDAS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


yes its a d-series

yes the head will work but gotta plug the block like you plug the head for ls/vtec
and you have to run a oil line to the head like you do for ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>

why run a oil line to the head? the head gets oil regardless


Modified by projectTeG at 9:16 PM 8/25/2008

 

Plug the VTEC oil hole in the block, get GE dowel pins, use a LS headgasket. Better if you can drill the dowel holes in the block, but the GE's will work.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Plug the VTEC oil hole in the block, get GE dowel pins, use a LS headgasket. Better if you can drill the dowel holes in the block, but the GE's will work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There you go the voice of experience.

 

just so you know, putting a head that flies apart at 8500 together with a block thats asleep until 7500 isnt going to net any impressive results. the rockers will be popping off before the crank wakes up.

 

go to junk seller and buy b16 head and put it in your b16 block DOHC vtec is a most

 

hes just trying to not spend any money it doesnt look like he wants it to be fast by any means just a simple throw together to give away thats it. basically 2 parts that nobody uses to combine to give to a brother thats all. make sure you tell your brother or who ever thats getting it thats its really fast!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dan-lee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to junk seller and buy b16 head and put it in your b16 block DOHC vtec is a most </TD></TR></TABLE>

alot of people miss the point, he wants a engine to drive on...not race.

 

with 404 cams, DIY head work, compression [by milling or one layer HG] you could build a respectable engine for cheap. it will be rev happy for sure

 

wouldnt you use a b16 head gasket??? JW. and what about head studs wouldnt you use LS head studs
b16 block
LS head studs
B16 head gasket
GE dowel pins flipped upside down
b16 timing belt
plug the oil passage on the block. what else is needed. Theres no external line that is needed.
I know on an Ls/vtec you use the Head bolt/studs for the head you are using, and the Headgasket is for the block you are using am i correct.

 

i did thiss build lol made nice hp lol for a non vtec b16 lol got 140hp to the wheels and crazy rpm at top lol had a diy port polished ls head with reground cams little more wider and little more lift it moved lol for a scrap build i used it as a shop beater lol built it with all the scrap laying around from lsvtec builds lol one things for shure id love to see how it acts on boost lol as for the head studs i cant remember i think i had to mix and match studs from the b16 and 2 middle from the ls

well the motor lasted me 3 years of beating on lol every day 10.000 rpm shifts lol rod gave out snaped in the middle lol motor was beaten up b4 i did the build had lot of km and burned a lot of oil lol may build one more some time soon tho for fun lol

 

also for got it was amazing on gas to lol beat my b16 vtec fuel milage a lot my b16 vtec did about 450 km to 40L of gas and the shop car b16 with the ls head did 600km to 40L of gas i was suprized lol we drove it to the us a few times to during the summer lol