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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Default OEM rubber bushings -or- Energy full poly bushing kit

Energy full poly bushing kit goes for ~$170 w/ shipping from ebay

so far, i've replaced 5 bushings with oem parts... parts and labor was around 170 as well
i'll need to replace a few other bushings in the rear since it squeaks from the back now.... front upper control arm bushings were replaced recently that removed squeaking from the front


should i just go ahead and get the full poly bushing kit and replace whichever bushings that needs replacing?
i heard i'll feel a difference with poly vs. rubber...... can someone confirm?

so far i'm running cheap kyb's with eibach prokit springs......
soon to replace the kyb's with koni yellows
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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For sure you'll feel a difference with stiffer (not to mention newer) bushings. Everything will tighten up.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Stay with oem rubber. I keep reading about people having to redo the urathane after a year or two.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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Ditto, OEM rubber lasts MUCH longer and will not develop as much movement over time as polyurethane will when exposed to street driving conditions (hot, cold, wet, dry, freezing, etc).
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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OEM is always the bestd unless you want to put up with the sweaking.....
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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Well I've had my bushings (mixture of ES and Prothane) for a little over a year, and I checked them out the other day and they seem to be holding up fine, no squeaking either. However I have read that a lot of people have problems with these. The hardest part is getting the old bushings out, putting the new ones in is easy, so even if these poly bushings melt/crack/break/explode I will still be able to add hard rubber ones in easily with a press/vice.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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yeah i got es bushings, 2 years old.

nothing diff from when i put them in.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i got es bushings, 2 years old.

nothing diff from when i put them in. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting, an ITR owner on here posted a thread showing his 2-yr old ES bushings he removed from his car, which had been regularly lubricated, and still they were completely trashed.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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a guy i know had energy bushings for a while, probably close to 2 years now. recently it started squeaking, but all u have to do is lubricate them and they're good as new.

that car was daily driven with a tiny bit of auto-x, so as far as doing auto-x or anything of that nature, i wouldn't know how well they would hold up
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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I've heard that poly bushings often seem to bind up when they are installed on Hondas, which is a difference you don't want them to make. I am running Energy Suspension bushings on my Dodge Dart and they have held up pretty well, but about all this one has in common with a Civic is a double wishbone front suspension layout (and for you third gen Civic guys out there, a torsion bar front suspension with a solid rear axle). I probably won't be putting polyurethane bushings on my Civic after talking to some of the local racers, who recommend that if you're going with nostock bushings to go Delrin.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Ive had the black ES kit on my DD and autocross car for 3 years. Not one problem or squeaking at all.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Interesting, an ITR owner on here posted a thread showing his 2-yr old ES bushings he removed from his car, which had been regularly lubricated, and still they were completely trashed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your mileage may vary... no regrets about putting on my energy full kit. Can't remember how long ago it's been now. For $100-150 for the full kit you really can't beat it if you have to replace every 2 years or so.

Full kit is $130 all day long from Summit Racing.


Modified by stumpyf4 at 4:50 AM 8/16/2008
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stumpyf4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your mileage may vary... no regrets about putting on my energy full kit. Can't remember how long ago it's been now. For $100-150 for the full kit you really can't beat it if you have to replace every 2 years or so.

Full kit is $130 all day long from Summit Racing.


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hmm yea, if you don't have any other means of transportation, then removing and replacing ALL bushings (with a press) and getting it aligned afterwards is a huge hassle to be doing every 2 years. Not something I would want to deal with.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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you dont necessarily have to get all oem bushings to replace, i got oem replacement bushings that were about half the the price. i got it from a place similar to this.

http://www.statracing.com/oem-...shing
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ALL bushings (with a press) and getting it aligned afterwards is a huge hassle to be doing every 2 years. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Press is not necessary after the first time... even for the first time a press isn't really required; torch and hacksaw get the job done. After the first time it shouldn't take you longer than 4 or 5 hours to drop all the control arms and replace the bushings. Alignment every 2 years isn't really a hassle either, I check my alignment every year as part of maintenance.
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