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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:18 AM
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Ok im currently rebuilding an LS (B18B1) motor as a temporary

my questions are:
1. Is there a way to remove the PISTON PIN without the use of any hydraulic tools?

2. If yes/no, Does anyone have any experience running PR3 pistons w/ PR4 rods in an LS, and what other modifications are necessary in doing this; considering everything is stock?

All responses/opinions/tips/criticism/recommendations/experiences are welcome!!

P.S. I've searched literally everywhere on this topic, if you find a link regarding this for a HONDA, I will be really embarrassed!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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i hope someone knows how a motor works out there

BUMPPP
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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they have to be pressed out and pressed in. take them to a machine shop. Shot peen the rods too!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JakeSpec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they have to be pressed out and pressed in. take them to a machine shop. Shot peen the rods too! </TD></TR></TABLE>

They don't have to be. A little heat on the rod end and a pin right from the freezer can do wonders. Taking them apart might be a different story.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JakeSpec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they have to be pressed out and pressed in. take them to a machine shop. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Best advice yet.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EKhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They don't have to be. A little heat on the rod end and a pin right from the freezer can do wonders. Taking them apart might be a different story. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Huh?

just take it to a reputable machine shop prefferably a honda engine experienced shop.

not really hard to do with the right equipment but with the wrong equip you could scuff the crap outta the piston and the pin bore.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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You need to have the old pins pressed out w/hyd press.The new pins can be put in w/a rod heating machine.It's really tough to do it w/o the machine because the pins get set very fast and you need to have a stop set so you do overshoot or undershoot the pins location by guessing when your in far enough.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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If you have to ask "how", this is one of the things you should pay a shop w/ experience to do for you.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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get one of the propane torches from home depot...the Blue bottle. Spark it up and put some heat on the pin. Since metal shrinks the pin will slide right out. Sorry can't take pics of the process. but its overall easy.

**be careful that stuff is hot***
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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i wonder if its a difficult process, because i was jus thinkin i could get something else done at tha shop and ask them nicely if they could jus remove them for me realy quick
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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Im sure they will love that.

Whatever you do for a living, do you do it for free when people ask nicely for you to do it "really quick" ?
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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well im a lab technician, i cut lenses
since its my specialty, if i owned all tha lenses, i still wouldn't mind cutting perscriptions for free if someone bought something else from me

removing piston pins is a service, im sure is incredibly easy for "a shop w/ experience" to do.

please, ms. contraption, stop hating life and dont try to be a such a keyboard gangsta, help a kid out.

JINOTIQ...(OVER)
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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to everyone else, appreciate tha responses

i jus needed more people to tell me i couldn't remove it myself because i tried sooo hard takin it out, i took a socket and a hammer and hit on a "practice piston" and tha thing wouldn't budge

JINOTIQ...(THNAKS AGAIN)
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Hopefully you find a shop that will do it for you out of the kindness of their hearts. If not, you can ask if you pay for them to press out 3 pistons, if the 4th is free.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Somewhere, Sometime, Some one said, you get what you pay for. Hard to bitch about a deformed, broken piston when it's done for free. I do like the Propane, big hammer routine though, I think that is a Yates or Hendrick thing, could be HPD, not sure.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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ive seen a cast piston crack even with a hydraulic press because the kid didnt know what he was doing. so even with the right tools it can be shady for someone without experience. I machined a jig and pressed some out from my own pistons with no ill effects but doing it with a hammer i can see the pistons cracking before the pin budges. for what they'll charge its worth bringing it to a shop, time is money.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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ok now im jus at tha point where i jus wanna see how much it'll actually take to take that thing out

im thinkin about using tha glock .45

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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Fantastic.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Ive pressed them out with a press after heating them with no problems.

Also is it just the difference in expansion rates that causes the pin to come out easily(usually) when heated ?
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hopefully you find a shop that will do it for you out of the kindness of their hearts. If not, you can ask if you pay for them to press out 3 pistons, if the 4th is free. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol what the hell is this discount tires! lol
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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i guessing honda really didnt want me to remove these things, time for machine shop shopping, perhaps power pros, gotta ask
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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BuMP! haha Good luck homie!
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