tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs.
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tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs.
so i've got a set of JDM 16's on the R now. currently, maybe 2 of the tires match brands, 3 of the tires match sizes (the other is really close, on the rear).
anyways, ill be getting new tires soon. I dont mind the low profile look, but again, this is a daily driver and i really do not need anything too sporty. i barely drive this car so i dont want to spend a lot of money on tires, and i have an extra set of track tires if need be.
this is the only picture i have of the car and wheels. of course its sitting high.
they are wearing on the inside a bit, i didnt thing a 1 inch increase in wheel size was that much of a difference. but a part of ti may be because i slid off track last year at VIR and there was some noticeable susp. movement. an alignment fixes it, but when i go back to get another alignment, you can tell something shifted.
i probably need a camber kit (its on of the upper camber arms that are bent) instead of buying a new/used arm.
i didnt really want to do any susp. mods just to fit a set of 16" JDMers in there.
oh well.
sorry for the long post.
so what tires do you guys run? im talking ECONOMY RACING B0'
anyways, ill be getting new tires soon. I dont mind the low profile look, but again, this is a daily driver and i really do not need anything too sporty. i barely drive this car so i dont want to spend a lot of money on tires, and i have an extra set of track tires if need be.
this is the only picture i have of the car and wheels. of course its sitting high.
they are wearing on the inside a bit, i didnt thing a 1 inch increase in wheel size was that much of a difference. but a part of ti may be because i slid off track last year at VIR and there was some noticeable susp. movement. an alignment fixes it, but when i go back to get another alignment, you can tell something shifted.
i probably need a camber kit (its on of the upper camber arms that are bent) instead of buying a new/used arm.
i didnt really want to do any susp. mods just to fit a set of 16" JDMers in there.
oh well.
sorry for the long post.
so what tires do you guys run? im talking ECONOMY RACING B0'
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (baonest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baonest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i probably need a camber kit (its on of the upper camber arms that are bent) instead of buying a new/used arm.
i didnt really want to do any susp. mods just to fit a set of 16" JDMers in there.
so what tires do you guys run? im talking ECONOMY RACING B0' </TD></TR></TABLE>
So, stock suspension still? I shouldnt need any camber kits just an alignment should remedy the problems.
Stock tire size would be 215/45/16. You can also get away with 205/45/16 if that option is cheaper for you. I find Azenis 615's are fairly cheap and sticky in these sizes.
i probably need a camber kit (its on of the upper camber arms that are bent) instead of buying a new/used arm.
i didnt really want to do any susp. mods just to fit a set of 16" JDMers in there.
so what tires do you guys run? im talking ECONOMY RACING B0' </TD></TR></TABLE>
So, stock suspension still? I shouldnt need any camber kits just an alignment should remedy the problems.
Stock tire size would be 215/45/16. You can also get away with 205/45/16 if that option is cheaper for you. I find Azenis 615's are fairly cheap and sticky in these sizes.
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (BlueIntegraBoy)
i've had good experience with the AST's.
they're pretty inexpensive also.
i think i need to find a good price range for what the car needs. for some reason i buy tires because of tread pattern. i dont really like the pattern on these. i really just want something that looks plain. but for $60 or so each. kinda hard to beat. (for 205 width)
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (get RIGHT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So, stock suspension still? I shouldnt need any camber kits just an alignment should remedy the problems.
Stock tire size would be 215/45/16. You can also get away with 205/45/16 if that option is cheaper for you. I find Azenis 615's are fairly cheap and sticky in these sizes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, still stock. the alignment does fix the problem. but my guess is that it fixes it for a little while, then gets all out of wack, everytime i take it back to alignment place its the same thing "its noticeably out of alignment, did you ever fix the upper arm".
maybe i'll give it one last try under the alignment rack with a better set of tires that all match up.
hmm, i forgot about the 615's. i will look into them. my dad/sister also drive the car, they'll use it if one of their other cars are down, so i dont want something that can put them in harms way, when it rains with the azenis.
BTW, i havnt aligned it yet with the 16's because i wanted to do it with fresh tires. ill just have to keep an eye on it this time to catch it early if i have to fix any susp. components.
So, stock suspension still? I shouldnt need any camber kits just an alignment should remedy the problems.
Stock tire size would be 215/45/16. You can also get away with 205/45/16 if that option is cheaper for you. I find Azenis 615's are fairly cheap and sticky in these sizes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, still stock. the alignment does fix the problem. but my guess is that it fixes it for a little while, then gets all out of wack, everytime i take it back to alignment place its the same thing "its noticeably out of alignment, did you ever fix the upper arm".
maybe i'll give it one last try under the alignment rack with a better set of tires that all match up.
hmm, i forgot about the 615's. i will look into them. my dad/sister also drive the car, they'll use it if one of their other cars are down, so i dont want something that can put them in harms way, when it rains with the azenis.
BTW, i havnt aligned it yet with the 16's because i wanted to do it with fresh tires. ill just have to keep an eye on it this time to catch it early if i have to fix any susp. components.
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (baonest)
If your getting a reoccurring problem then there must be a problem somewhere. Maybe bent suspension component or worn out bushing somewhere? You might wanna get under there and do an inspection of everything first before it hits the alignment rack.
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no offense, but your "only picture" kinda stinks 
. i couldn't tell if i was looking at the white R or the black one... i assume the white one since you mentioned JDM wheels and the black ones... i can't tell what you have on there. nevertheless, better pictures, maybe. anyhow, as far as tires go 215 45 16s rock. the 205s would be a little thin for me. if nsxtasy saw this, he'd recommend the kumho asx for an all season. but i'm not sure if they make it in the 215 45 16 size. otherwise the falken 912 would do fine, but not great. a reasonable summer tire in that size would be the hankook rs2 or the dunlop direzzas, maybe. the 615s are great, but like everyone knows, they wear out sort of fast. the 215 45 16 size is hard to find. 
Good luck, bud.
btw, what tire is the very bottom one? and 919... durham/raleigh =
Modified by jomama at 7:57 AM 6/24/2008
. i couldn't tell if i was looking at the white R or the black one... i assume the white one since you mentioned JDM wheels and the black ones... i can't tell what you have on there. nevertheless, better pictures, maybe. anyhow, as far as tires go 215 45 16s rock. the 205s would be a little thin for me. if nsxtasy saw this, he'd recommend the kumho asx for an all season. but i'm not sure if they make it in the 215 45 16 size. otherwise the falken 912 would do fine, but not great. a reasonable summer tire in that size would be the hankook rs2 or the dunlop direzzas, maybe. the 615s are great, but like everyone knows, they wear out sort of fast. the 215 45 16 size is hard to find. Good luck, bud.btw, what tire is the very bottom one? and 919... durham/raleigh =
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (baonest)
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if nsxtasy saw this
I'll give you some specific recommendations in a moment. But first let's start with the advice I often post, outlining the different types of tires and choices for Integras, including our Type R's:
Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Roughly 90 percent of the time, people fall into one of the following three categories:
a. People who want the maximum traction on dry pavement, and don't care about anything else. These are usually people who sometimes use their street tires in autocross or on the racetrack or in brisk drives on curvy roads. The best tire for such folks IMHO is usually the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is available in Integra sizes of 195/60-14, 205/50-15, 215/45-16, and 205/40-17, depending on your wheel size, and the Dunlop Sport Z1 Star Spec in 195/55-15. These tires don't last all that long - treadlife of 10-12K miles is typical - and they are only so-so in rain. But if you only care about dry grip, they're the bomb.
b. People who want good traction on dry pavement, but also want good traction in rain and also care about value (purchase price and/or treadlife), and who DON'T use these tires in snow (either it doesn't snow where they live, or they have separate tires or another vehicle for winter conditions). These are usually people who use their tires for everyday driving. The tires I most often recommend for these folks are the Kumho SPT and the Avon Tech M500, which are available in Integra sizes of 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. I recommend the Yokohama ES100 in 195/60-14 for those with 14" wheels. All of these tires have very good grip on dry pavement, are excellent in rain, and last a reasonably long time (25-40K miles).
c. People who need to use the same tires in snow during the winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. These folks need all-season tires, which are a compromise; they have the flexibility to be used in a wider range of weather, but they're not as good in winter as true winter tires and they're not as good the rest of the year as summer tires such as those mentioned above. For these folks, I recommend the Kumho ASX in 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. For those with 14" wheels, I recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 195/60-14.
All of these tires are reasonably priced, and are the best you can get for your money in each of these categories, IMHO. You can get them shipped from places like Tire Rack, Discount Tire (whose higher prices are offset by free shipping), and Vulcan Tire.
a. People who want the maximum traction on dry pavement, and don't care about anything else. These are usually people who sometimes use their street tires in autocross or on the racetrack or in brisk drives on curvy roads. The best tire for such folks IMHO is usually the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is available in Integra sizes of 195/60-14, 205/50-15, 215/45-16, and 205/40-17, depending on your wheel size, and the Dunlop Sport Z1 Star Spec in 195/55-15. These tires don't last all that long - treadlife of 10-12K miles is typical - and they are only so-so in rain. But if you only care about dry grip, they're the bomb.
b. People who want good traction on dry pavement, but also want good traction in rain and also care about value (purchase price and/or treadlife), and who DON'T use these tires in snow (either it doesn't snow where they live, or they have separate tires or another vehicle for winter conditions). These are usually people who use their tires for everyday driving. The tires I most often recommend for these folks are the Kumho SPT and the Avon Tech M500, which are available in Integra sizes of 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. I recommend the Yokohama ES100 in 195/60-14 for those with 14" wheels. All of these tires have very good grip on dry pavement, are excellent in rain, and last a reasonably long time (25-40K miles).
c. People who need to use the same tires in snow during the winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. These folks need all-season tires, which are a compromise; they have the flexibility to be used in a wider range of weather, but they're not as good in winter as true winter tires and they're not as good the rest of the year as summer tires such as those mentioned above. For these folks, I recommend the Kumho ASX in 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. For those with 14" wheels, I recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 195/60-14.
All of these tires are reasonably priced, and are the best you can get for your money in each of these categories, IMHO. You can get them shipped from places like Tire Rack, Discount Tire (whose higher prices are offset by free shipping), and Vulcan Tire.
Both of these sizes are within 1 percent in diameter of our stock size (195/55-15) so they won't throw off your speedometer and odometer. Even on a somewhat lowered car, as long as the offsets on the wheels are correct (which they are on the JDM wheels), they shouldn't rub.
Which tire to get? Decide on what you're looking for - i.e. what KIND of tire - first. If you want the best traction on dry pavement, period, then the supersticky tires like the Azenis (215/45-16) or RE-01R (205/45-16) are a good choice. But you say you want economy, and these supersticky tires are a poor choice for economy, not only because of their purchase price (particularly the RE-01R) but also because you'll be replacing them three times as often as you will for most other tires (every 10-12K miles vs 25-45K).
If you need to drive them in snow once in a while (it snows in NC, BTDT) then you really ought to get all-seasons, like the Kumho ASX (205/45-16, $81/tire at the Tire Rack). You'll be compromising your warmer-weather performance at least somewhat, but you can't have everything in a tire. Otherwise, if you don't have to worry about use in snow, budget performance summer tires are a good choice. The best "bang for the buck" choices are the Kumho SPT ($84/tire in 205/45-16 at tires-easy.com) and the Yokohama S.drive ($90/tire in 205/45-16 at Discount Tire Direct, which has free shipping which is worth $10-14/tire). If you are willing to have a little less performance for a lower purchase price, the General Exclaim UHP is another option ($68/tire in 205/45-16 at the Tire Rack, less a $50 rebate which lowers the effective price to $55.50/tire).
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (nsxtasy)
I took Ken's advice last year on the ASX's (dont know if they come in these 16" sizes)for daily use. Ken has never let me down.
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oh we hardly get snow here. not anything to worry about really. but i will look into the ASX, i think i actually have those on my moms car.
the very last pic is the yoko ES100. they've been known to be a good "bang for the buck" tire, but this was a few years ago.
im lookin for around $70-75 a tire (i know shipping will kill if i order from tire rack).
there is a local discount tire. ill check that. we also have just tires.
ill check those S drives from discount tire
the very last pic is the yoko ES100. they've been known to be a good "bang for the buck" tire, but this was a few years ago.
im lookin for around $70-75 a tire (i know shipping will kill if i order from tire rack).
there is a local discount tire. ill check that. we also have just tires.
ill check those S drives from discount tire
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (baonest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baonest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh we hardly get snow here. not anything to worry about really. but i will look into the ASX, i think i actually have those on my moms car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, you'll have to decide whether to get summer tires or all-seasons. You know the pluses and minuses of each.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baonest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the very last pic is the yoko ES100. they've been known to be a good "bang for the buck" tire, but this was a few years ago.
im lookin for around $70-75 a tire (i know shipping will kill if i order from tire rack).
there is a local discount tire. ill check that. we also have just tires.
ill check those S drives from discount tire</TD></TR></TABLE>
The S.drive is Yokohama's replacement for the ES100, although they are still selling the ES100. They're similar; the S.drive is slightly better than the ES100, and similar to the SPT. (You can see a comparison of the SPT and S.drive here, and a comparison of the SPT and ES100 here.) The S.drive costs a lot more in most sizes, is similar in price in a few other sizes. 205/45-16 is one of the few sizes in which the S.drive actually costs less than the SPT (see above), because DTD has a great price on it, and DTD and Tire Rack doesn't carry the SPT in that size.
Shipping is usually $10-14/tire. Discount Tire Direct, the mail order division of Discount Tire, offers free shipping. A lot of stores will match internet prices if you ask.
Yeah, you'll have to decide whether to get summer tires or all-seasons. You know the pluses and minuses of each.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baonest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the very last pic is the yoko ES100. they've been known to be a good "bang for the buck" tire, but this was a few years ago.
im lookin for around $70-75 a tire (i know shipping will kill if i order from tire rack).
there is a local discount tire. ill check that. we also have just tires.
ill check those S drives from discount tire</TD></TR></TABLE>
The S.drive is Yokohama's replacement for the ES100, although they are still selling the ES100. They're similar; the S.drive is slightly better than the ES100, and similar to the SPT. (You can see a comparison of the SPT and S.drive here, and a comparison of the SPT and ES100 here.) The S.drive costs a lot more in most sizes, is similar in price in a few other sizes. 205/45-16 is one of the few sizes in which the S.drive actually costs less than the SPT (see above), because DTD has a great price on it, and DTD and Tire Rack doesn't carry the SPT in that size.
Shipping is usually $10-14/tire. Discount Tire Direct, the mail order division of Discount Tire, offers free shipping. A lot of stores will match internet prices if you ask.
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (machgo5go)
^^ You are so lucky. We don't get that size here just yet in the RE-01R It seems like I have been waiting forever for it to get here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ You are so lucky. We don't get that size here just yet in the RE-01R It seems like I have been waiting forever for it to get here. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Huh? According to the Tire Rack website, the RE-01R in 205/45-16 is in stock...
Huh? According to the Tire Rack website, the RE-01R in 205/45-16 is in stock...
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (get RIGHT)
yeah i have the jdm 16's also but in 205-50-16 and have noticed the wheels on the inside are worn more than the middle and the outside. ive had my kdw 2's for a little over three years now first with mf10's and then the jdm 16's. with proper rotation , balance and alignment.
could be many factors one they are directional tires, driving habits(i baby the r)
but ive noticed its happened only since i put on the jdm's.
weird
could be many factors one they are directional tires, driving habits(i baby the r)
but ive noticed its happened only since i put on the jdm's.
weird
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (nsxtasy)
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Huh? According to the Tire Rack website, the RE-01R in 205/45-16 is in stock...
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OOps. I misread, I thought he said 215's instead of 205's.
Huh? According to the Tire Rack website, the RE-01R in 205/45-16 is in stock...
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OOps. I misread, I thought he said 215's instead of 205's.
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Re: tire sized for 16" JDM wheels. stock suspension. some probs. (mugenr#1011)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenr#1011 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i have the jdm 16's also but in 205-50-16 and have noticed the wheels on the inside are worn more than the middle and the outside.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The most likely explanation is alignment - and especially the toe settings. I know you said you checked the alignment, but...
Another possible explanation is a suspension problem, like a bent control arm, worn bushing, etc.
The most likely explanation is alignment - and especially the toe settings. I know you said you checked the alignment, but...
Another possible explanation is a suspension problem, like a bent control arm, worn bushing, etc.
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