Hey guys,
I have a 93 Lude that I bought that had an H22A swapped into. The car came with an msd blaster coil external.

My dizzy just whent bad and I got a new one, I bought one for a 2.2L vtec motor, put it in and the car wotn start, its like it kinda fires, but doesnt start, I herd kinda poping in the exhaust...

Anyway, I think it may be in the wiring, I see that the + wire on the coil was tapped into a yellow wire, that is also hoiooked to a black/yellow stripe wire.
And the ground (black) wire on coil goes to a Blue wire on the harness.

So the wires may be wrong, plus, are the caps/rotors the same? The cap bolts right up...

 

Are you sure it was the dizzy that went bad and not the coil.

From what your telling us, it sounds as if the coil wires are spliced together. And that would be done because of an internal coil.

 

Right, so i took all 4 plugs out and tested for spark, and yes all 4 is getting spark, on to our new issues, fuel ?

 

are the plugs wet with gasoline.

are the plugs in the right firing order

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3 4
1 2


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Yes were are int he right firing order,Sir. Plugs look okay, not fouled.
Its like the car ALMOST starts, but doesnt You here Poping in the exhaust. The car spits no check engine codes.
I really think I have the wrong Dizz or something... I bought it for a 2.2L Motor vtec, and it had no internal coil.

 

Question,

Is the Dizzy Cap/Rotor the same from a H23 to a H22 ?

 

This is the Dizzy I bought:

http://www.autozone.com/R,APP3...l.htm
For a 1993 Lude 2.2 L

OR should I have gottent he S model

http://www.autozone.com/R,APP3...l.htm

 

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yes the dizzies are interchangeable.

 

So are you still using the MSD coil? Sounds like a wiring problem.

 

yes still using the MSD coil,

not in the actuall dizzy plugs, but a little down into the harness, by the trans I see a big yellow wire tapped into a black wire with yellow stripe, this is the MSD coils positives wire tapped into these wires, all 3 of them are twisted together.
than there is a blue wire, this goes to coils ground.

 

So Could it be the wrong Dizzy? Mabey I need the S model ? ?

 

C'mon guys Im really stumped and Id like to drive the car.

I dont know too mutch about the prelude, But I assume it came stock with an internal coil.

Im trying to figure out why a yello wire was spliced to a black/yellow wire on the harness and this goes to the + on the external coil.

ok, mabey its not the dizzy, Im preety sure it is, but lets say its not, how to I test to se if shes getting fuel?
Oh wait,m I herd there is wires int he dizzy for fuel ?

 

You know, what, a picture is worth 1000 words, your posts are mabey 120 total.

Show us a picture.

 

Bad pic, but you can see a thick yellow wire connectoed to a blacl/yellow wire, then the external coil + goes to this and blue wire goes to - on coil


and this is up by the dizzy connectors I found 2 wires cut/unused

 

ok, I need hel here,
Heres what im thinking, the 93 Luide comes with the external coil STOCK, correct?

That would mean I should NOT have had to splice a yellow wire to a black/yellow wire, But I think they were spliced to gether cuz someone originally used an internal coil ?

Make sence, I dont undertsand complelty myself, sO that would mean what I need to unhook the spliced wires?

 

See, check this out, these guys say to splice the 2 wires together to use an INTERNAL COIL, But im coinfused to what need to be done to reverse this to keep using the external coil............

 

So its def getting spark, plulled the plug and turned it over and I see park physically. And the plug smells like fuel, its getting fuel...........

 

Could it be the wrong dizzy?

 

So I found this

http://hondaswap.com/general-t...24364/

I have the TD-61u

Do I need the type-S dizzy ?

 

I would try to return it back to stock if possible. You should be external coil. Your dizzy looks like the right one. I think its the wiring of the msd. Msd is wired with internal coil is it not? So I would chuck the msd (temporarily), get an external h23 coil (they arn't much money used) and change the wiring back to how it was and should be. This would eliminate a lot of unknowns

 

I would try to return it back to stock if possible. You should be external coil. Your dizzy looks like the right one. I think its the wiring of the msd. Msd is wired with internal coil is it not? So I would chuck the msd (temporarily), get an external h23 coil (they arn't much money used) and change the wiring back to how it was and should be. This would eliminate a lot of unknowns

 

at least help me with this,

My harness (h23) has been hacked, What wires go to the stock external coil?

What wires need to be spliced togethjer a,d what wires need to go to a MSD coil with a + and - terminal ?

and so I am on the same page of firing order

Dizzy TOP facing hood Dizzy 4 3 2 1 timing belt
3 4

1 2

Bottom facing Trans

Right ?

 

I just put a brand new Coil, distributor, Cap and Rotor in and car WONT START>>>>>>>>

 

dude u and i have the same issue i had a h22a4 on my civic and i had the same distributor u got my car starts fine but my vtec wont crack and my car runs like **** i dont know the issue