I have a 1995 Civic EJ1 coupe with a 97-01 JDM Integra Type R 5 lug and the stock ITR calipers. I always hear about ITR (or 5 lug converted in my case) owners going with NSX or Legend 2 piston front calipers.

1) I have read that people with regular 4 x 100 Civics and Integras have to modify the spindle, bracket, or caliper to get NSX or Legend calipers to work. Is this also true with the ITR 5 x 114.3 setup? Are these direct bolt in?

2) What year(s) of NSX calipers?

3) What year(s) of Legend calipers?

4) Is there any difference in braking betwen the NSX and Legend calipers? How are both compared to ITR single piston calipers?

Thank you!!!


Modified by Toy Civic at 1:57 PM 5/27/2008

 

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There is no modifications required if you allready have itr brakes on your car.

You use the itr caliper bracket and pads and bracket hardware. You will need the caliper hardware for witchever caliper you use nsx or legend.

If you want a NSX caliper you have to use pre 97, If you want legend calipers you need 94-95 GS 4door.

The Legend calipers have bigger pistons than the Nsx calipers. The major diffrences between the 2 is: NSX calipers are made from allunium and the Legend are made from cast iron. The NSX calipers were made to mount to the front of the spindle and the Legend calipers are made to mount to the rear of the spindle. This does cause a problem where you have to swap the right and left calipers to have the correct line mounting and bleeder to be ontop.
I have done this to 2 cars no with no problems. There are some people out there that will tell you that swaping the calipers left to right will make the pads wear uneven. I have allready gone through one set of factory pads and the wear was just about even.

As for as diffrence goes, There is less brake fade and it feels a little stiffer. The initall bite is less jerky than with the single caliper, but it deffently stops quicker. I have also noticed that the rotors didn't get as many hot spots on them as they did with the single piston calipers.

If there is anymore info you neede let me know.

Here is some pics on my civic




And here are some pics on my tsx








Modified by FOC-US2K at 11:20 AM 5/29/2008

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FOC-US2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no modifications required if you allready have itr brakes on your car.

You use the itr caliper bracket and pads and bracket hardware. You will need the caliper hardware for witchever caliper you use nsx or legend.

If you want a NSX caliper you have to use pre 97, If you want legend calipers you need 94-95 GS 4door.

The Legend calipers have bigger pistons than the Nsx calipers. The major diffrences between the 2 is: NSX calipers are made from allunium and the Legend are made from cast iron. The NSX calipers were made to mount to the front of the spindle and the Legend calipers are made to mount to the rear of the spindle. This does cause a problem where you have to swap the right and left calipers to have the correct line mounting and bleeder to be ontop.
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you can also use 2 pistons from 93-95 coupes.
other differences are the NSX: bling = higher cost; Legends: "lower profile" = lower cost. Plus, it's not major, but the piston sizes are larger on the legends.

 

Thanks for added the thing about the piston sizes, I ment to type that but I must have forgotten

 

97+NSX calipers fit under 15" wheels just fine, you just need the proper bracket. You also have the larger piston setup by this route vs. the pre 97 NSX caliper route.

I have run this setup for years now.

 

just to correct some info... nsx calipers are not made from aluminum, and the 97+ calipers (NA2) have smaller pistons than the pre 97 models (NA1)

 

Also to correct some misinformation from above, contrary to popular belief swapping calipers side to side with a staggered piston size like those in the nsx/legend calipers does have an effect on braking performance. Can most people tell the difference however...no. If you are looking for the ultimate set-up though, then swapping them is not the way to go. It's physics fellas.

Also with the bigger calipers make sure you use the proper sized rotor, using the thinner ITR rotor can cause some scary consequences if your pads decides to shift unexpectedly.

 

When I compaired my nsx calipers to my legend calipers, It looked like to me that the nxs calipers were made from allunium, They were a hell of alot lighter than the legend ones.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by an2ny888 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just to correct some info... nsx calipers are not made from aluminum, and the 97+ calipers (NA2) have smaller pistons than the pre 97 models (NA1)</TD></TR></TABLE>
No kidding. I just checked the NSX wiki, and it's different than my old info which stated the reverse, 40/34 vs 40/36.

 

sorry i brought this back from the dead but my question is do you just need the 2 front calipers or do you need the rear one as well?!

 

Fronts

 

The NSX calipers are still heavier than Spoon etc. The calipers eventually get switched out if the NSX owner is going for weight reduction.

 

so i just bought a 2pot legend caliper.. the brackets that come with it which is stock legend..those wouldnt fit? really have to use itr brackets?