Hey,

I drive a 93 Civic DX H/B

Finally got approved for a loan so now I can "afford" a GSR swap. Im planning on rebuilding the engine with some new parts and I was wondering if the following parts are any good. Or if there are any better parts to replace them with. Anyways, to begin with the GSR swap comes with:

Complete Block Head
5 speed LSD Transmission
jdm ECU (P72)
jdm Wiring harness OBD1
Distributor
Exhaust Manifold
Down pipe
Intake Manifold
Fuel Rail
Injectors
Sensors
Starter
Half Shaft/Intermediate Shaft
Alternator
A/C Compressor
Power Steering Pump
Throttle Body
Shifter Linkage and Axles
stock motor mounts

Some of the parts will be replaced depending on their conditions (Axles, shift linkage, motor mounts, etc)

Anyways, now the the parts going into the engine:

Skunk2 Titainium Retainers
Skunk2 Pro Valves
Skunk2 Pro Springs
Skunk2 Pro Cam Gears
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Skunk2 Fuel Rail
Skunk2 MegaPower Exhaust
Greddy SUS Headers
Hasports Motor Mounts
Hasports Shift Linkage
Block Studs
Blox Camshaft
SRP Forged Pistons & Eagle Rods
Someone name me a good Clutch and Flywheel Kit

All in all, I just have a couple questions:

1. Am I missing anything?
2. Since the swap comes with a JDM wiring harness, do I still need to buy the 92-95 Civic DX/LX to GSR (Subharness Package) from rywire?
3. So I need any other harnesses?
4. Using all these new parts, would I be able to run a turbo setup in the future? Nothing insane, maybe like 6 psi.
5. If I am able to go turbo, what would be the best compression for the pistons? I know lower is better if your going to turbo, but to low on a NA motor isnt very effcient. SO what would be best the best compresion to get?

Many Thanks,
Abius



Modified by Abius at 5:02 PM 5/22/2008

 

IMO you'd be better off getting a JRSC instead of a turbo.

 

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Thanks for input. How would this be more effective?

Anyone else?

 

Bump!

 

Well it depends on how you'll drive it. If you're gonna do auto x and road courses the whole idea of a turbo having to spoil up and stuff is bad news cause after a few intense runs you have to change bearings and maintenence stuff but a supercharger doesn't have to spoil up and if it raises heat and loses boost, intake temps go down whereas a turbo gets hot, looses boost and your intake temps stay high and that's where the whole intercooler thing comes in to play. Basically for a dd you don't have to worry about it but that sounds like a race set up. If you're gonna drag race then the turbo wins hands down but an auto x car is better suited with a super charger IMO. Either one would be a nice set up.

 

In my buzzed state, the only thing I can see that you need that's not on your list is a B-series tranny torque mount. Hasport sells them for $60 IIRC, their shift linkage is great too - I vouch

 

looks like your going all out... are you going to port the intake and exhaust sides of the head and the IM with bigger throttle body??? def some power in doing that..

and with a built head like that, a quick spoiling turbo with a good tune will do some damage! just get a custom gasket to lower the compression to run it safe.

 

Alright, well its mostly going to be used as a daily driver. I would like to try some track with it every now and then. As for the turbo/supercharger, I guess I can scrap that idea for now.

As for the current build, should there be any parts added? What type of gaskets am I going to need?

What compression should pistons be if running NA. And how bout the harness

 

Wake up Bump!

 

ttt!

Comon, theres got to be someone else to comment on the setup.

 

Comon, anybody?

 

Bump!

 

Fidanza flywheels are popular, and a stage 1 or 2 clutch would be good based on your upgrades.

what are your goals power wise? what are you going to do for suspension upgrades? IMO all that hp/tq is useless if you cant get it to the ground or around a corner . gl with the build though

 

as mention from above whats your goals and power wise.!?!? umm.. how about your fuel system!.. i notice no one has caught that yet!.. fuel pump.!?!? injectors.!??!

 

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very good! fuel system, electrical, cooling.all very important to maintaining and tuning your build sir

 

As for suspenstion. I got some of the parts, waiting for some parts to come into stock

Skunk2 Pro-S
Skunk2 LCA
Skunk2 Front & Rear Cambers
ASR Lower Brace + Sway Bar
Front lower and upper Strut
Rear Upper Strut

Power wise, Im not really searching for anything in particular, was just pretty much putting things together and seeing what comes out.

As for fuel system, I wasnt sure what type of injectors I would need, same for a fuel pump.

Recommendations?

 

Save your money on the fuel rail if you're upgrading for performance value. The stock Honda rail will support a lot more power than you're looking to make on this setup. Hell, i'm still on my stock one shooting for 450whp on E85. If you're not familiar with E85, it requires 30% more fuel than gasoline...just to give you an idea of the flow capacity of the stocker.

Your fuel pump choice is obvious. A Walbro 255lph HP. That's the most commonly used pump for anything under 550whp. As for the injectors, that depends on the power you're looking to make. Once you decide that (and which route you're taking to get there JRSC vs turbo) we'll figure that out.

If you're spending all of this money to build the engine with top-quality parts, why are you still going to run the JRSC?? If you are planning to do that, save yourself the money and run the stock block. Stock GSRs are good to 350whp on pump gas which is well beyond the capacity of a JRSC. I would strongly advise a turbo setup. Before doing anything, you should bum around the FI forum for a while and make a better educated decision.

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Very true. If you search the Forced Induction FAQ, there are a few threads comparing the JRSC to the most basic turbo kits. Not to spoil the ending, but the JRSC pales in comparison.

 

Well for the turbo/SC setup, I was not really looking into that, it was sort of brought up. Right now Im mostly wanting to make an all motor setup.

As for power, I dont know what I want. GSRs put out (reading from various sources) between 170-185 HP. With these upgrades plus intake, headers, exhaust, I was hoping somewhere around 200HP.

 

Bump!

 

For your N/a build to be worth the money youre putting into it, itll require more than just top of the line parts. The little stuff counts too. Your new block will also need an oil pump, water pump, your radiator may not be too happy..What tuning program will you run with your setup?crome, hondata, neptune? Check your bearings and bushings? I hope the best for your build, but remember "What can go wrong, will go wrong"


Modified by musclehead954 at 11:01 PM 5/26/2008

 

Well I was planning on replacing a couple things on the engine itself. Like you said, waiter pump, oil pump. Am going to change the rad for an all aluminum rad with new tubes and fan.

As for tuning, I have no idea, havnt really read up on that.

Going to be doing a complete suspension overhaul, new bigger brakes infront, disc brakes in back. Also bought a Total Kit from Prothane Bushings.

 

Bump!