i've searched here, 7th gen and club civic and can't find it....i even went on a limb and tried google but ***** to specific i guess.

anybody know where or have a write up? maybe im searching the wrong words. im not too good with search engines.




Modified by theciv at 12:17 AM 5/19/2008

 

You're installing extended lugs on drums. Why? I can sort of help with the installation, but I'm completely lost as to a reason why.

 

well what i mean is how to get the hub off to get the studs out...or is it even that hard. i mean the front you can jus take off the nut in the center and pull the hub off, but i've heard it is a bit harder in the rear with the drums. im asking how to get the hub off with a drum brake in the rear


i plan on getting wheel spacers is the reason why. probably just 5mm spacers or so

 

You won't need extended studs for 5mm spacers. 10mm+ you would.

 

oh okk.

but just for future reference or knowledge..how would you go about doing the rears with the drums in place?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by theciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh okk.

but just for future reference or knowledge..how would you go about doing the rears with the drums in place? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You'd have to dismantle the brakes, and remove them from the hub, then take the knuckle off the trailing arm and control arms, then press out the hub, and then press out the old studs, and reverse the process. This is also known as a MASSIVE waste of time and effort. It'd actually be easier, and almost as cost efficient, to do a rear disc brake swap before-hand.

 

shoot. i'd love that but theres no way i could do that. that seems like so much work.

is it as bad as it seems?

 

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Or worse.

Put it this way, I wouldn't bother for any wheel in the world.

 

WOW if matt says he wouldnt do it for any wheels in the world, then its not worth it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> It'd actually be easier, and almost as cost efficient, to do a rear disc brake swap before-hand.</TD></TR></TABLE>

rear disc ftw!! easier to replace studs too.

 

actually, the rears are probably easier than the front simply because you dont have an axle to deal with. and the front arent as easy as you claim, you cant just take off the axle nut and remove the hub, you have to beat the living **** out of it with a slide hammer or remove the entire knuckle assembly and use a hydraulic press. it's pretty easy to do and any experienced tech should be able to do it in a little over an hour for all 4 wheels. you don't 'need' extended lugs for a 5mm spacer, but id certainly recommend it. 2-3mm is ok, but 5 is pushing it. Unless youve done it before, id take it somewhere. or have someone who has done it before help you. after all, besides the lugs, the hubs keep the wheels on the car. and you're also going to be taking the brakes apart to get to that point anyways, which is another reason you need to be careful. just my opinion..

 

thanks for the heads up..im not worried about the brakes...i've taken those things apart too many times...even replaced my right caliper and piston because it wasnt closing correctly

 

At first I was driving around with 5mm spacers, the lug nut when tighten had only 6 rotations which made me kind of cautious. What is the correct number of rotations for it to be safe? toyomatt84 is right about 10mm spacers. I had to install extended studs for 10mm spacers.

It took me about 20 minutes each side to replace the rear studs. The rear is very easy to change the studs compared to the front. Only had to remove the drum which is number 3 on the figure, then remove the cap number 2 and the spindle nut number 33 and the hub which is number 1 will slide right off. After that you can hammer out the studs and replace them.



However the front is another story. I just removed my front assembly and took it to a shop to change the studs.

Modified by dabopper25 at 11:51 AM 5/20/2008


Modified by dabopper25 at 8:31 PM 5/20/2008

 

Agreed. Matt is a wheel ***** and he wouldn't go through the trouble for any wheel in the world. As long as the lug nut is on at least 1/4 the lenght of the stud then you should be fine.