i searched and couldnt find anything but have any of you guys put DC2 knuckles on an ef? i would like to hear some experiences/thoughts


thanks

 

That will never work. I attempted to put the jdm 4x114.3 itr front kunckles on my crx and it was way wrong. The shape of the upper part of the knuckle is extremely different from the ef. the top of my tire was cambered out so far I couldn't drop the car back on the ground. Camber kits won't do it either

 

if most gsr knuckles are abs and thats why then will not work. but i think you can find 94 95 gsr or ls knuckle the will fit on an ef. the key ot that they have to be NON ABS. THJE ABS ONE HAVE A DIFFENT SHAPE TO THEM. i have ls one on my car and it fixes some of you camber depending on how low your car is. theres reallynot much of a diff. between the 2 brakes. i used a 13/15 master cly. from a 4 door civc. hope i was a help

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efhonduh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i searched and couldnt find anything but have any of you guys put DC2 knuckles on an ef? i would like to hear some experiences/thoughts


thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

the 94-00 integra uses calipers stamped 17cl14vn w/ 10.3" rotors. from what i've found is that the 94-00 integra knuckles work better on +92 civic. on 88-91 civic/crx knuckle upgrades, use the 90-91 civic ex 4-door or 90-93 integra knuckles for better results w/ camber, alignment & toe. the 90-93 integra knuckles (calipers also stamped 17cl14vn) & the 90-91 civic ex knuckles use bigger calipers & 10.3" front rotors. the 90-91 civic ex 4dr front knuckle is rare & expensive; the 90-93 integra front knuckles are easier & cheaper to find. if you plan on upgrading to integra da knuckles, you'll need to upgrade to a bigger master cylinder when using bigger front calipers since more fluid is required to push the larger piston...which can be found on a 90-91 civic ex 4dr. a 90-93 integra master cylinder & booster can be used as well.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2140287

you can also keep the stock civic front knuckles and upgrade to an 11" rotor upgrade without having to swap to 90-91 civic ex 4dr or 90-93 integra knuckles. this set-up uses 11" rotors from a prelude re-drilled to 4X100 and cl brake calipers w/ machined brackets. plug and play bolt-on, pm brakeexpert for details...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2211517

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevtecnician &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That will never work. I attempted to put the jdm 4x114.3 itr front kunckles on my crx and it was way wrong. The shape of the upper part of the knuckle is extremely different from the ef. the top of my tire was cambered out so far I couldn't drop the car back on the ground. Camber kits won't do it either</TD></TR></TABLE>
the itr lug conversion (4X114.3 or 5-lug) can be done on an 88-91 ef civic / crx using 90-93 knuckles. you'll have to press the new hub (4X114.3 or 5-lug) on new 90-93 teg front wheel bearings.
http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/5lug.ef-da/


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedflaredb16si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if most gsr knuckles are abs and thats why then will not work. but i think you can find 94 95 gsr or ls knuckle the will fit on an ef. the key ot that they have to be NON ABS. THJE ABS ONE HAVE A DIFFENT SHAPE TO THEM. i have ls one on my car and it fixes some of you camber depending on how low your car is. theres reallynot much of a diff. between the 2 brakes. i used a 13/15 master cly. from a 4 door civc. hope i was a help</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^^^^^the 94-95 gsr or ls front knuckle without abs will fit on an ef beacuse it has different shape? ? ? ? ? ? wat?^^^^^^^^^^^

all 94-00 integra knuckles and calipers are the same (regardless if it is a gsr, ls, rs, gs, etc). all 94-00 integra front knuckles (EXcluding the integra type-r) use calipers stamped 1 7 C L 1 4 V N with 10.3" rotors. the only 94-00 integra that did not have abs was the integra RS. the 94-00 integra knuckle's geometry is best suited for +92 civic, but i have seen them on ef's. you'll have camber issues, but if you drop +2", your camber zeroes out, but you'll have no suspension travel.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1508680

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedflaredb16si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if most gsr knuckles are abs and thats why then will not work. but i think you can find 94 95 gsr or ls knuckle the will fit on an ef. the key ot that they have to be NON ABS. THJE ABS ONE HAVE A DIFFENT SHAPE TO THEM. i have ls one on my car and it fixes some of you camber depending on how low your car is. theres reallynot much of a diff. between the 2 brakes. i used a 13/15 master cly. from a 4 door civc. hope i was a help</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you didn't know, the type-r's don't have abs.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roastbeefrichie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 94-00 integra uses calipers stamped 17cl14vn w/ 10.3" rotors. from what i've found is that the 94-00 integra knuckles work better on +92 civic. on 88-91 civic/crx knuckle upgrades, use the 90-91 civic ex 4-door or 90-93 integra knuckles for better results w/ camber, alignment & toe. the 90-93 integra knuckles (calipers also stamped 17cl14vn) & the 90-91 civic ex knuckles use bigger calipers & 10.3" front rotors. the 90-91 civic ex 4dr front knuckle is rare & expensive; the 90-93 integra front knuckles are easier & cheaper to find. if you plan on upgrading to integra da knuckles, you'll need to upgrade to a bigger master cylinder when using bigger front calipers since more fluid is required to push the larger piston...which can be found on a 90-91 civic ex 4dr. a 90-93 integra master cylinder & booster can be used as well.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2140287

you can also keep the stock civic front knuckles and upgrade to an 11" rotor upgrade without having to swap to 90-91 civic ex 4dr or 90-93 integra knuckles. this set-up uses 11" rotors from a prelude re-drilled to 4X100 and cl brake calipers w/ machined brackets. plug and play bolt-on, pm brakeexpert for details...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2211517


the itr lug conversion (4X114.3 or 5-lug) can be done on an 88-91 ef civic / crx using 90-93 knuckles. you'll have to press the new hub (4X114.3 or 5-lug) on new 90-93 teg front wheel bearings.
http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/5lug.ef-da/


^^^^^^^the 94-95 gsr or ls front knuckle without abs will fit on an ef beacuse it has different shape? ? ? ? ? ? wat?^^^^^^^^^^^

all 94-00 integra knuckles and calipers are the same (regardless if it is a gsr, ls, rs, gs, etc). all 94-00 integra front knuckles (EXcluding the integra type-r) use calipers stamped 1 7 C L 1 4 V N with 10.3" rotors. the only 94-00 integra that did not have abs was the integra RS. the 94-00 integra knuckle's geometry is best suited for +92 civic, but i have seen them on ef's. you'll have camber issues, but if you drop +2", your camber zeroes out, but you'll have no suspension travel.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1508680</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know about the 4x114.3 conversion, but what ffs tech net doesn't tell you is that the 96 itr hubs don't fit the 90-93 bearings unless they are machined down. I didn't know this until it was too late, and just had them put back together and was gonna try it anyway and it of course failed. I learned the hard way!

 

(sorry to thread jack)
sorry to hear that.
...so what ended up happening & what knuckles are currently on your EF.
did you end up going 4X114.3?
using the 90-93 integra knuckles in 4X100? &lt;&lt;10.3" or 11" rotor?
or did you go back to the 88-91 civic / crx knuckles?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1079051

http://battlecat.8m.com/ITR%20...A.htm

* all 94-00 integra (including the type-r) have abs. the only 94-00 integra without abs is the RS model *

http://www.itrsport.com/specifications.html

ok. back on topic:
:fixed:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roastbeefrichie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(sorry to thread jack)


sorry to hear that.
...so what ended up happening & what knuckles are currently on your EF.
did you end up going 4X114.3?
using the 90-93 integra knuckles in 4X100? &lt;&lt;10.3" or 11" rotor?
or did you go back to the 88-91 civic / crx knuckles?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1079051

http://battlecat.8m.com/ITR%20...A.htm

* all 94-00 integra (including the type-r) have abs. the only 94-00 integra without abs is the RS model *

http://www.itrsport.com/specifications.html

ok. back on topic:
:fixed: </TD></TR></TABLE>

I ended up going back to stock in front, and ls in the rear. I'm gonna be using da knuckles with itr calipers and redrilled rotors though. Check out my build in my sig

 

Here is how I made them work on my 88 CRX. I got all the components off (rotors, calipers, caliper brackets, pads, etc.) of the GSR knuckles, then I sold the GSR knuckles and used that money to purchase 90-93 Integra knuckles and swapped the components onto the 90-93 Teg knuckles. The car has been stopping fine for the last 4-5 years with no problems.

 

i like your idea but did the DA Knuckles cost more then what you sold your gsrs for???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is how I made them work on my 88 CRX. I got all the components off (rotors, calipers, caliper brackets, pads, etc.) of the GSR knuckles, then I sold the GSR knuckles and used that money to purchase 90-93 Integra knuckles and swapped the components onto the 90-93 Teg knuckles. The car has been stopping fine for the last 4-5 years with no problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the 90-93 DA,94-2001 DC/DB integra(excluding the type-r), 90-91 civic ex, 1996 itr all use the same exact caliper(down to the part#), and same exact size rotor.

My question is why would you buy two diff knuckles and switch parts around when you can buy complete 90-93 DA knuckles and slap them right on without having to swap anything?

And FYI* my 1996 itr front and rears did not have abs. When we put them onto my freinds 98 gsr(equipped with abs) we couldn't hook his abs up because there no threaded holes to bolt down the lines.


Modified by thevtecnician at 8:43 PM 5/19/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efhonduh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i like your idea but did the DA Knuckles cost more then what you sold your gsrs for???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not at all, they should go for about $25 a piece and up, depending on where you buy them. I bought them here: http://www.car-part.com

I sold the GSR knuckles for $100.


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the 90-93 DA,94-2001 DC/DB integra(excluding the type-r), 90-91 civic ex, 1996 itr all use the same exact caliper(down to the part#), and same exact size rotor.

My question is why would you buy two diff knuckles and switch parts around when you can buy complete 90-93 DA knuckles and slap them right on without having to swap anything?

And FYI* my 1996 itr front and rears did not have abs. When we put them onto my freinds 98 gsr(equipped with abs) we couldn't hook his abs up because there no threaded holes to bolt down the lines.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used the newer 96 GSR brake components because they are newer, less wear and tear and the 90-93 Integra knuckles I had gotten did not any brake components on them. I already had the 96 GSR front brakes in my possesion.

 

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And FYI* my 1996 itr front and rears did not have abs. When we put them onto my freinds 98 gsr(equipped with abs) we couldn't hook his abs up because there no threaded holes to bolt down the lines.


Modified by thevtecnician at 8:43 PM 5/19/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>


JDM ITRs did not have ABS (or at the least, it might have been optional). All USDM ITRs came with ABS, regardless of year.

I am using 90-93 DA knuckles, hubs, rotors on my EF. They work perfectly. The DA arm is about 5mm taller than the EF arm, so alignment differences are negligible (just re-use the EF upper A arm), but I have a camber kit for a more aggressive alignment.

For the rear, I am using '96 DC integra trailing arms and brakes. The integra rear hub is a little larger than the 91 CRX hub with disc brakes, so the rear wheels will stick out like 3/8" to 1/2" more than if you used the CRX parts. Unless you have wide, low offset wheels, you shouldn't rub though.

 

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And FYI* my 1996 itr front and rears did not have abs. When we put them onto my freinds 98 gsr(equipped with abs) we couldn't hook his abs up because there no threaded holes to bolt down the lines.


Modified by thevtecnician at 8:43 PM 5/19/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just for archive information, 1996 4x114.3 ITR's did have ABS as a factory option. I have the conversion sitting at my apartment with the ABS lines still bolted up but cut -- front and rear

 

the only ones that would fit onto the ef are the ex or sir model hubs and da's. I have da's on mine works great. i got them complete for $50 about 6 years ago from a junkyard.

 

http://www.fastbrakes.com
Had an 11inch upgrade using GS-R calipers. On my CRX for 1.5 yrs with no issues. Plus, no redrilling rotors

 

Holy crap man... mods should be able to take away points for blatantly wrong information. Especially in something that can effect tire wearing and steering characteristics so drastically.


I've used a DA front knuckle and brake assembly for 2 years now w/ brembo blank rotors and hawk pads.... no issues whatsoever.

 

ok well since you seem to know what is wrong can you add some info