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Old May 10, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Well guys I finally did it and just bought a 2001 S2K in PA. Car came with a turbo and everything was 100% legit. He got some cheap tires for the rear so when you get off from accelerating the car will sway back and forth real quick. I think it's the tires but not totally positive. The walls are kind of soft to me. The car only has 27,000 so parts shouldnt be going yet on it.

My other question is if I were to put some Tein or Skunk2 springs on will it drop it too much where I will need a new camber kit and everything or will the stock set-up work? I think that about wraps it up. Car is awesdome and wish I bought it way long ago. Thanks
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Old May 10, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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what tires are on the back and what size are they? im thinking that its just the tires being shitty and the car having too much power for them.

springs shouldnt drop the car too low, you wont have a problem with any camber issues either
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Old May 10, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedEBP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well guys I finally did it and just bought a 2001 S2K in PA. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You eastern or western PA?


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedEBP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> He got some cheap tires for the rear so when you get off from accelerating the car will sway back and forth real quick. </TD></TR></TABLE>

call me silly for inquiring, but, this isn't from wheel spin is it? lol


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedEBP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My other question is if I were to put some Tein or Skunk2 springs on will it drop it too much where I will need a new camber kit and everything or will the stock set-up work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you just want a drop or do you want to enhance the handling capability of the car?


Moderate negative camber will not ruin your tires. If you get an alignement and keep the toe in/out within spec then you will be fine.
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Old May 11, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuzukaBlueAP2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You eastern or western PA?


call me silly for inquiring, but, this isn't from wheel spin is it? lol


Do you just want a drop or do you want to enhance the handling capability of the car?


Moderate negative camber will not ruin your tires. If you get an alignement and keep the toe in/out within spec then you will be fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm in Western NY here in Rochester. You around this area? Haha, I know it's not wheels spin for sure. I actually took a closer look with my buddy and my wheels are out too much. Guy must have been doing some suspension work or somehting and tweaked them out of spec. GOnan through the toe's in 1/16th of an inch in on each side. Heard that was the best thing to do.

So how much extra drop can I add to my car from the stock height without needing to do any work to get them to fit right? 1 inch? 2 inches? Thanks
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Old May 12, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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bump for answers
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Old May 12, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Tein S..

Stock tires..
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Check your tire pressure. The S2000 is very sensitive to left-right variation in pressure.

Zero or slight toe-in on the rear is good for stability.
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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[freak] springs..... my personal feelings.

I like Falken RT615s. They are $500 +/- shipped, probably less for AP1 sizes. Wider tires never really hurt. They wear quickly and can be dangerous in the rain.

I have Kuhmo Ecsta SPT on mine, I hate them, but they are lasting, and are great in the rain.

I think S02s are great for the AP1, they don't last and certainly aren't cheap though.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Think ill go with the tein ss techs for now and find some better wheels later when i have more than 5 bucks in my account lol
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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teins are gay dont get them. If you want a 1 inch drop go with swift they are the best springs. second best and what im curently runing is Espelir ASD they are 1.5 inch drop i love these springs. if you want lower then 1.5 go with skunk 2 but be whare the front drops lower than the back with the skunk2 so your car will have a rake.
as for tires im running some toyo proxies stock sizes on ap1 wheels.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">teins are gay dont get them. If you want a 1 inch drop go with swift they are the best springs. second best and what im curently runing is Espelir ASD they are 1.5 inch drop i love these springs. if you want lower then 1.5 go with skunk 2 but be whare the front drops lower than the back with the skunk2 so your car will have a rake.
as for tires im running some toyo proxies stock sizes on ap1 wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are all "show" mod spring anyway, will not make a world of difference to be honest w/ you.

throw on a set of good tire and you'll be amaze how much faster you can be.

rt615
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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Thanks for the replys guys
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Springs are for looks, if you want to improve handling get some coilovers with a stiffer spring rate.

I'm getting KWv3 this month.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Check the far inside tread on the rear tires. Hard to spot sometimes, but get on your stomach and check the tread. Sometimes the outside tread looks fine, but the far inside tread is bald (happened to me).

S2000's are very oversteer happy. That means they fishtail and kick the backend out alot. This was more prominent in the AP1's, and reduced in the AP2's.
To resolve this issue, you need to have new tires, and a proper alignment.
You can also reduce oversteer by installing a front Swaybar. Not strutbar (in the engine bay).

Lowering - I had my S2000 lowered on Espelir springs, and stock shocks. This dropped my ride approx. 1.5" all around. That's about as low as you can go, without going to coilovers.
Also, the ride quality was actually pretty decent compared to stock.
With that drop, and 18" wheels, my stock camber plates were maxed-out to align the car properly.


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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Oh... and changing anything in the suspension will reduce the handling of the S2000.
Anything!

The only way to improve the handling characteristics, is to spend the big bucks on high-end coilovers (not skunk2, or ebay crap).

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Old May 16, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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dthondatune: Oh... and changing anything in the suspension will reduce the handling of the S2000.
Anything!
The only way to improve the handling characteristics, is to spend the big bucks on high-end coilovers (not skunk2, or ebay crap).

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^ um it wont reduce handeling it will make it different you will ahve to get used to it. Stiffer springs and a lower center of gravity = less boddy roll how is that reducing handeling?????
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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I just moved from Rochester, I used to live in Victor.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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honda spent a lot of time and money designing that oem spring/damper combo, you will not improve upon it by buying a set of springs. if you want a lower stance then just get whatever fits your budget and aesthetic desire.

for tires, best prices for oem ap1 wheels with good performance would be the dunlop z1 or hankook rs2. azenis don't have the proper fitment up front though some people will still use them.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dthondatune: Oh... and changing anything in the suspension will reduce the handling of the S2000.
Anything!
The only way to improve the handling characteristics, is to spend the big bucks on high-end coilovers (not skunk2, or ebay crap).

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^ um it wont reduce handeling it will make it different you will ahve to get used to it. Stiffer springs and a lower center of gravity = less boddy roll how is that reducing handeling?????
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that will be depends oh what spring rate, you have some 20-30% springs rate increase like eibach, swift and tein which will change much compare to stock(which is a good thing since our stock suspension are great begin with)
some sleeveover and springs like eslisplar(sp?) and GC are couple hundred lb/in more than stock, which will overwork the damper, not to mention it's going to be underdampered. Most people complain spring for being too soft, even with the increase of spring rate, remember you are getting a shorten damper travel. if you look under the **** of the s2k you know much little room we have for the rear. it's the same for miata, they get no rear damper travel if it's been lowered about 1 inch to 1.5 inch, riding on bumpstop=worst suspension you can have beside in the world of drifting i guess.


most of the aftermarket 1-1.5 inch springs rear baised, meaning they have stiffer boing in the rear(just like ap1), most mfg don't bother to change this when ap2 came out. Some people argue ap1 is too tailhappy but it's all about frame of reference, it's scarey if you are coming from a hodna fwd with heavy front for example.
ap2 does carry a slight lower G at the corner by most magazine testing back in 2004.

it's a black art, you could have a guy with a fastest suspension setup and not running teh fastest time(being too scarey or sensitive to drive, or just require a much higher driver input and experience).



it's all about what fits you best to be honest

i am thinking about dumping my coilover for cr supension, will make that decision after one more visit to the trak
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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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^^^^ I agree with u. Im happy with the way the car feels with the srpings I like it better than stock they suite my driving style. On the other hand I want to stiffin up the chassi a bit with some braces. Than when my shocks blow I'll get some koni yellow shocks. I'm not going with coilovers for a while I feel if you have a good shock and spring combo they can be just as affective as coilovers but hey that's all upto the drivers preferance.
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