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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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When I get up in the morning and go out to start my CRX (B16A2 Swap-OBD1 Conv), it "starts fine" (meaning there is no problem cranking or anything) but shakes somewhat rigorously for about 5 secs then the idle increases (from about 1000 to about 1500-2000 RPMs) and she starts to pur, she then runs fine, and starts fine all day long. However when I go to start it the next morning, same thing, it does seem to be worse the warmer it is. Also sometimes when it's really hot out she is a b*tch about starting. Any ideas?

Just for reference she has had a new fuel filter, spark plug wires (Type R), 4 new plugs (NGK-Iridium), oil change and filter (Mobil 1-5W30), Seafoamed, Dry Gas'ed within the past year. (This is my summer car- she only gets about 3-5K mi yearly)

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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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maybe it was the sea foam.. was it like that before you did the sea foam?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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check this out

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1992733
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Old May 8, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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You know I can't say for sure, but I do believe it started after the seafoam (not directly), I will NEVER put Seafoam in my car again, I only gained negative results from using it. It took my car a few days to return to "normal" and has never been quite the same, I have probably around 60,000-100,000 mi on my motor and maybe it killed some of the compression.

I also wonder if maybe I have a sludge build up or something, because I don't run with the O2 sensor connected, and I heard it can make the car run more rich. Personally I have found my car to run more smooth and have more power in the mid/high RPM range w/o it. However when I used the seafoam, about 2 days later I went to start it and it smoked white *** smoke like crazy, I added it to the fuel system as directed. So if there is a buildup maybe the seafoam cleaned some of it out, or all of it lol.


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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Ok I have confirmed it only does this when it's started on a hot day and/or it's been sitting in direct sunlight on a sunny day (However only when it's say 75 deg or higher). Any ideas? I kinda think it has something to do with the ECU acting wacky more than it being a mechincal problem. It behaves like it's not getting enough gas or air and is going to stall out, but the ECU keeps it alive.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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check out your FITV and IACV, look in the faqs for a writeup.

Mine have gone bad a few times and it can be pretty intermittent/random. But it wouldnt sputter at all, it would just idle high (and the rpms would jump/bounce around some times).

are there any CEL codes in the ECU?
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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Well it could be the IACV b/c I have had problems with it in the past, but the problems I experienced was the car not starting at all. I'll have to do some reading about the FITV not sure what that is all about. My CEL is "alyways on" b/c I run w/o an O2 sensor, but I will hook it up and see if it throws a code or not.

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