Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Running LEAN!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:20 PM
  #1  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Running LEAN!!

hey everyone,
My b16 delsol is running lean i believe, the plugs are white with some black residue on the top threads.
Buring coolant or running too lean....
Any idea how to fix it?
Reply
Old Apr 20, 2008 | 03:41 PM
  #2  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

Is the Check Engine Light (CEL) ON?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1901557

Do a compression test on the cylinders (head/head gasket problem) if you think the engine is burning coolant.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:43 AM
  #3  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (RonJ@HT)

Cel is on, I havn't read the code yet.
I just recently changed the head gasket and it may be the head is warped so maybe its coolant burning not sure 100 percent.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:51 AM
  #4  
slo_hatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,367
Likes: 0
From: Northeast TN
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

o2 sensor problem? check the codes and find out why your cel is on.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:09 AM
  #5  
JDMeGGaLLdAY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Stevens Point, Wisconsin, U.S.A
Default

Yes, def. start by check'n codes and go from there
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:26 AM
  #6  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: (JDMeGGaLLdAY)

ok i ll start from there and report back.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:48 AM
  #7  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

k heres the update: The cells are reading bad MAP sensor, Primary Oxygen Sensor, and Iacv.
I recently changed iac and is it that possible that that one is bad aswell or is there maybe a wiring problem?
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:41 PM
  #8  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

bump the fixie
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:45 PM
  #9  
bigsyke's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Liberal City
Default

would that be a ground issue?

thermostat ground.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 11:05 AM
  #10  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: (bigsyke)

not sure i can check. I am going to change all sensors soon and if that doesn't fix it its gotta being a wiring issue
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:31 AM
  #11  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

Bump need it
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:32 AM
  #12  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

I am going to check to see if all sensors are bad, by replacing them obviously. If not I am going to assume its a wiring problem
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 07:57 PM
  #13  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

Bump
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 08:25 PM
  #14  
hondaboostin's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: houston, tx, us
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

when you replace the iacv did you reset the ecu? and the map has a lot to do with the way a car runs. it senses the pressure and lets the ecu know how much gas to give it. But then again so does the o2 sensor. It reads if its lean or rich and tell the ecu to give it more gas or less gas. So if both happen to be bad then it will run lean or rich cause it has no way of knowing if its running rich or lean. Hopefully this info will help you check to see if the sensors are bad if not you'll know what you dont have... 5 volts power, ground or signal. VOLTAGE
At 5 in.Hg 2.4 Volts
At 10 in.Hg 1.9 Volts
At 15 in.Hg 1.5 Volts
At 20 in.Hg 1.0 Volts
At 25 in.Hg 0.5 Volts


PURPOSE
The ECU uses the MAP sensor signal to sense engine load so that ignition timing and fuel delivery can be adjusted to maintain consistent engine performance.

LOCATION
The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor is mounted to the rear wall of the engine compartment.

CONSTRUCTION
The sensor consists of a silicon diaphragm and some support circuitry.

OPERATION
The ECU supplies a 5 volt signal and a ground to the sensor. A vacuum line supplies intake manifold vacuum to a small cavity under the silicon diaphragm which causes the diaphragm to flex. The flexing of the silicon generates a small voltage which is amplified by the support circuitry and used to modify the fixed 5 volt signal supplied by the ECU. The modified signal is then returned to ECU.



hope it helped some.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 08:25 PM
  #15  
EkFG's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: NEAR YOU, WI, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

your o2 might have **** on it and be bad a map sensor would most def trigger this. I would start be replacing both and reset computer.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2008 | 12:20 PM
  #16  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (EkFG)

ok got one comiing in tomorrow thanks guys I ll update ya
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:32 AM
  #17  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

Ok heres the update, Map sensor was changed out and cell 3 went off. Thats the good news. I changed O2 sensor ( with Brand new one) but no difference cell 41 is still on and so is cell 14. Those two cells i need to fix any ideas.
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2008 | 04:15 PM
  #18  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

Updated!
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2008 | 06:59 PM
  #19  
slacks's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,716
Likes: 0
From: South Jersey
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

run some seafoam to clean your pcv lines and clean out your iacv.
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:48 PM
  #20  
slowcivic2k's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,817
Likes: 5
From: Kansas
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

A grayish white tan color and soot on the bottom of the plug threads with a white electrode indicate a plug in good condition. No cause for alarm.
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:47 PM
  #21  
bigsyke's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Liberal City
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (slacks)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slacks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">run some seafoam to clean your pcv lines and clean out your iacv.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that will further make him run lean. clogged IACV and/or PCV means less air in the mix.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:59 AM
  #22  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigsyke)

Will do so, getting head resurfaced this weekend will report back after I put everything back together.
THanks again guys
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 09:47 AM
  #23  
yoffer's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,170
Likes: 0
From: Orange Park, FL, US
Default Re: Running LEAN!! (bigizsosexy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigizsosexy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will do so, getting head resurfaced this weekend will report back after I put everything back together.
THanks again guys</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why? Are you burning coolant?

Is there white smoke coming from your tailpipe?

Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:14 AM
  #24  
bigsyke's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Liberal City
Default

14 is iacv right? yea its probably NOT the sensor. The IACV code will go off on alot of counts. Vac leaks and an improperly adjusted throttle cable are the #1 reasons for code 14/IACV
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 05:24 PM
  #25  
bigizsosexy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: NJ, NJ, US
Default Re: (bigsyke)

ok i ll deff look into the throttle cable thing and because the head was leaking oil. and head needs to be resurfaced bro.
Noticeable leaking.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wallendiaz
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
6
Nov 27, 2012 01:31 PM
jyacoba2009
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
Sep 28, 2009 09:03 PM
all-mtr-teg
Tech / Misc
7
Nov 5, 2007 04:55 PM
law_teg_92_R
Honda Prelude
13
Jun 13, 2005 05:31 PM
Tad
Forced Induction
45
Feb 21, 2005 04:14 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:37 PM.