Ok long story but need a short answer. I was tuned a few weeks ago and the tuner just send me my kal. I am running a k24a1 with a greddy kit. I started looking at it and i saw that the tuner did not use the a3 greddy base map to tune off of, instead he used the tsx base map. The problem that i am having is that the tsx uses "true" vtec with 3 lobes and dose not kick in till 4600rpm's unlike the a3/a1 motors that kick in at 2200rpm's. because of this My car has a big dip in power at crossover and leans out. The tuner tuned the car with the vtec point at 4500 and I don't think thats right. I did not make the power i should have and i think this could be one of the reasons. Am i right?

 

anyone?

 

I'm not claiming to be an expert on tuning,because I'm not. But it makes sense to me that if Vtec is engaging at the wrong point that it may cause your car to lean out. More air in = need for more fuel. If it's engaging at the wrong point I suppose that the car may not get the correct amount of fuel and cause you to lean out. I think that's what your saying... Bring it to his attention, make sure everything's good, and have him retune it of need be. I'm not sure if that helps you any. Sorry if it doesn't.

 

Why would he use the TSX base map to turn the K24a1? Doesn't make any sense. Talk to your tuner ask him why he used the TSX base map instead of the a3 base map. There must be a reason why he used the TSX base map to tune off on unless he was confused what motor you had.

 

wasnt vtec invented to save gas??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondasfaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wasnt vtec invented to save gas??</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondasfaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wasnt vtec invented to save gas??</TD></TR></TABLE> You fail.

 

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not so sure about that,

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wikipedia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you fail

 

When I first put in the EMS, VTEC was set way too high as well. Started driving it around and it felt & sounded really different/bad. Changed it so the psuedo-VTEC is set to engage at @ 20% TPS and 1700 RPM. Sounds normal, feels great, no dip in torque till after 6000 rpm.

Remember, A3 VTEC just gives you both intake valves, not a 3rd lobe.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_efficiency

educate yourself man...volumetric efficiency doesn't mean more effecient on gas

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_efficiency

educate yourself man...volumetric efficiency doesn't mean more effecient on gas</TD></TR></TABLE>

we're both right in a way

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wikipedia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some later variations of the system were designed solely to provide improvements in fuel efficiency, or increased power output as well as improved fuel efficiency.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

You fail for using Wikipedia as a source. Anyone can go on there and edit anything. Read the bottom of the first paragraph on the link that he provided.


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Modified by Tyte-S at 2:49 PM 4/7/2008

 

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you all fail for drivin hondas

 

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not being a jerk, just jokin around, hence the wave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondasfaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not being a jerk, just jokin around, hence the wave

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Omg, that's the best thing i have seen all week.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkankyEJ7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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Bump for a follow up?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyte-S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You fail for using Wikipedia as a source. Anyone can go on there and edit anything. Read the bottom of the first paragraph on the link that he provided.


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