wanna get some feedback on the k-pro vs EMS...

 

I'll have a writeup on it in a few days. I just switched to a K-pro from an AEM EMS.

 

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will look forward to it - is it something worth looking at given my car is only lightly modded? (mods in sig)

 

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will look forward to it - is it something worth looking at given my car is only lightly modded? (mods in sig)</TD></TR></TABLE>

YES, and it's OBD II compatible. Put it this way, I passed emissions testing and they plug into your OBD II.

 

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YES, and it's OBD II compatible. Put it this way, I passed emissions testing and they plug into your OBD II. </TD></TR></TABLE>

nice work - look forward to the write up

 

my question is it really worth 1700 k-pro vs. 1200 EMS...??

 

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YES!

 

i look forward to your insightful opinion and thoughtful regard mr smurf

 

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YES!</TD></TR></TABLE>

so does that mean you are selling your AEM EMS?!?

 

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YES, and it's OBD II compatible. Put it this way, I passed emissions testing and they plug into your OBD II. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats maybe the only thing, i personally thing for it. ill stick to the AEM as they have 100% more support for the user unlike hondata.
and on top of that if you get it you have to get all sorts of other **** just to use it from a RSX... its just a way for them to market a item and not have to develop a S2000 version.
just hack up a existing format

 

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thats maybe the only thing, i personally thing for it. ill stick to the AEM as they have 100% more support for the user unlike hondata.
and on top of that if you get it you have to get all sorts of other **** just to use it from a RSX... its just a way for them to market a item and not have to develop a S2000 version.
just hack up a existing format </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol. yup. re-use the old haha. Same thing with my EG door handles on my S!

 

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so does that mean you are selling your AEM EMS?!?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Already sold.

 

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thats maybe the only thing, i personally thing for it. ill stick to the AEM as they have 100% more support for the user unlike hondata.
and on top of that if you get it you have to get all sorts of other **** just to use it from a RSX... its just a way for them to market a item and not have to develop a S2000 version.
just hack up a existing format </TD></TR></TABLE>

Getting all the extra parts is a pain in the *** and costs $250, but if you're plopping down money for stuff like this, $250 isn't a big deal in the long run of things.

As you know, I had the AEM EMS and now have the Hondata, Also tuned by the same person. And well. Hondata is a lot better (in my experience). The startup is 100% better, the car runs smoother, the temp gauge works properly, it's OBDII compatible, the software is easier to navigate through, and the biggest thing of all; I made more power.

 

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lol. yup. re-use the old haha. Same thing with my EG door handles on my S! </TD></TR></TABLE>


LOL aint that right

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Getting all the extra parts is a pain in the *** and costs $250, but if you're plopping down money for stuff like this, $250 isn't a big deal in the long run of things.

As you know, I had the AEM EMS and now have the Hondata, Also tuned by the same person. And well. Hondata is a lot better (in my experience). The startup is 100% better, the car runs smoother, the temp gauge works properly, it's OBDII compatible, the software is easier to navigate through, and the biggest thing of all; I made more power. </TD></TR></TABLE>

start up etc can be done with with the right tuner.
making more power? how so? does it offer more tables to tune on? if it doesnt i dont see how how you can make morepower, but power can change from day to day, you and i both know his.

 

I'm going to be making the leap to a full engine management in a couple months, this is exactly what I needed, considering these were the two I was looking at.

 

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start up etc can be done with with the right tuner.
making more power? how so? does it offer more tables to tune on? if it doesnt i dont see how how you can make morepower, but power can change from day to day, you and i both know his.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, there are more fuel plots on the Hondata (according to the tuner). And I'm not talking about 3% error in power from the dyno. This was a pretty big jump. The temperature was also hotter this time around, so it could have been even more if the temperature/humidity was the same.

 

i guess i have to see it to believe it, i have been around a lot of EMS's
i personally run a Microtech ( non s200 related) my father runs a haltec ( both are REAL standalones unlike hondata recycled stuff)

so for your car to make more then 3% just from a different EMS and it being hotter...
i just cant swollow that one, i think its more tuner then anything.
i have seen the AEM EMS and haltec in the hands of someone who "knows" and the car left with a shitty start up map.
another "real" tuner and the car started like stock. also made more power with no other changes to it.
track #'s are what will hold weight in this discussion i think. we can go back and forth but it wont matter as its just a opinion

 

real.true.tuning.

 

Well the tuner in my case has little to do with it per-se. I used the same tuner to tune the car with the AEM EMS and the Hondata. So I don't see why he would be good one on, and bad on the other. If you're a tuner, you should be able to tune everything regardless of what type of system you are using. So in that aspect, the tuner itself has little to do with it.

Now on the other hand, if I used different tuners, then I could understand the number being way different as one tuner is just better at it than the other.

 

s@ntos is doing his monthly drop in on honda-tech

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by papa5murf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the tuner in my case has little to do with it per-se. I used the same tuner to tune the car with the AEM EMS and the Hondata. So I don't see why he would be good one on, and bad on the other. If you're a tuner, you should be able to tune everything regardless of what type of system you are using. So in that aspect, the tuner itself has little to do with it.

Now on the other hand, if I used different tuners, then I could understand the number being way different as one tuner is just better at it than the other. </TD></TR></TABLE>

true and i see your point 100%
but tuners are like women, some are good adn some are bad even tho they have the same "box"

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i do my roam around daily just not posting...

 

i decide to go with AEM EMS.. the engine start is not a big deal because they do have a feature on aem where you can adjust the engine start... plus its cheaper then k-pro.. another question is the table grids.. i know EMS has 17x21 what is k-pro??