I want to lower the S this summer, nothing serious just enough to do away with the fender gap, but there is one thing that I need to be convinced of before I will even consider this:

Handling won't be compromised but rather improved.

I wouldn't mind a stiffer handling car, something that will go in and out of a turn 100% flat. I'm 19 and don't care if the car is a little uncomfortable, and my GF and I recently broke up so I won't have to take her bitching into account (like I did when I bought an exhaust, and took the A/C out of my last car).

I'm sort of thinking about getting the CR set-up, shocks+springs, but $1200 better lower it just a little bit. I would like to get some coilovers, and braces, but yeah.... I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to suspension.

How do the dampers affect handling? Spring rates? Chassis stiffening?

This is my DD, but I'll say again I want something more aggressive.


Modified by Shy_GuyAP1 at 9:40 PM 3/20/2008

 

for 1200 bucks i would skip the cr suspension....

after doing alot of research i decided on the buddy club n+....15 way adjustable, 8k/10k springs so ride quality isn't sacrificed with an extremely stiff spring rate, and you can still slam the car if you wanted (which i don't)

myself and alexisthemovie both have these....and chris. is looking to buy them as well....

so my recommendation is as such...but it all depends on your budget...

fyi there's a guy local selling a set w/ less than 3k miles for 800 obo, and you can find them gently used anywhere from 600-800 bucks....

 

ok, im going to be nice.

MOTHER [freak]ING SEARCH YOU HO!!11!!1!!!1

oh and i got T1R's for $1500

 

From what others have posted and their reviews, i'll say to either go with Espelir or Swift springs and your choice of shocks/struts.(KYB, Koni, Bilstein etc). That would be the less expensive route, or go with a nice set of coilovers.

I haven't read much on the options available on coilovers for the s2k, so maybe somebody with a bit more knowledge on them can help out.

you can do a search on the topic and find a lot of info

 

see? and everyone thinks i'm THE *******

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see? and everyone thinks i'm THE *******

</TD></TR></TABLE> well i mean really, i mean i can only wonder how many times this has been asked. now if had questions about spring rates, pro's and cons of different loads, which load would affect what etc etc then the thread would have had merit.

but......

HELL NAW, he asks a question that is asked like 1000 times a day.

 

i just wanted to show i can provide useful input when i want to

 

yeah i know, but people dont realize that when you bitch people out, it's for asking **** like this 5 times a day.

 

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Actually..... I wanted to know kind of what to look for. I didn't post a generic, "what kind of coilover set up"

I wanted to know what I could do to stiffen things up a bit while eliminating the fendergap I have.

GRAF-FITI:
I was actually looking into a set of the Buddy Clubs as well as Koni yellows with GC sleeves, but I'm on the fence with them.

Basically what I wanted to know was,
How do spring rates affect handling, how does dampening, how can I stiffen up the car, lower it about an inch, and improve handling. I want a flat car through the corner.

 

Well CR would actually give me MORE fender gap!

No bueno.

 

pss9.....

 

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I wanted to know what I could do to stiffen things up a bit while eliminating the fendergap I have.

</TD></TR></TABLE> you changed your post bitch, you included what i just said after i bitched about it.

way to have no integrity.

 

Actually the original post did say that..... I fixed a grammatical error, that's why it was edited.

 

ok whatever, anyways i'll be a little productive.

get full coilovers, stiffest setting possible for them and slam it. i doubt you'll get much body roll if any. if you are going to be running your car really hard, maybe get a frame brace and some under carrige stuff.

 

the s2000's ive driven that have been lowered have decreased their ability on the backroads! They haven't felt as planted and seemed to be under dampened. This however could be due to bad setup on the owners side! Whatever you do, make sure to get full coilovers and not just a set of lowering springs. A friends car that i took in the backroads by my house felt underspringed compared to my stock suspensioned '01 ap1!

if you go aftermarket, get good quality coilovers and have them corner balanced and setup correctly! Or your car is going to be worse than it was stock!

 

I'm NOT getting lowering springs.....

I really want a balanced complete set-up.

My friend suggested Konis with Ground Control coilovers 12k(F) 10k(R). I have a 4point strut brace, but it felt like it gave me a little understeer. I'm getting a cusco rear brace on Monday.

I want to eliminate my fender gap, but improve handling. I'm not exactly asking what parts should I get to acheive this, rather I'm asking how suspension mods affect the car's handling.

What do spring rates do? What are the stock ones?
What about dampeners? Chassis braces? People have sugested x-braces, and stuff...........

 

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Agreed, they can be had for around $1200 shipped. One of the best coilover I've bought to date.

 

If I get these, and drop the car about 1" will the ride be stiffer? Will I get better handling?

 

good choice

 

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Yep Plus they have 9 adjustable dampening settings, so if it's too soft, you can always bump them up. I drive around on the softest setting and is still significantly stiffer than stock.

I guess the price just went back up on shox.com last time I looked they were around 1200 now they are up to 1349 shipped. I promise though, you won't be disappointed.

 

pss9 are a very good choice ... may also want to consider the Buddy Clubs, I have heard many many good things about them

 

Are the buddy clubs and PSS9 externally adjustable, and which one is stiffer?

Also, X and U braces.... how do they affect?

 

I'm not sure about the Buddy clubs, but the PSS9's have an adjustment **** at the very top, the rears, can be a pain, but I've gotten use to them now.

I believe Buddy Clubs have 10kg/mm (560 lbs) springs all the way around and the PSS9's are 6.16kg/mm (345lbs) with 1.5 kg/mm (85lbs) helper springs and the rears are 5.08kg/mm (285lbs)

Higher spring rates do not always mean a better coilover. It also could mean that the damper sucks and they are trying to make up for it with high spring rates. Bilstein makes one of the best dampers in the world. Amuse's coilovers are just revalved and re-springed PSS9's to their own custom application.

 

N+ here guys!