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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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ok so i plan on running this amp



in my 94 integra with a 130 amp alternator. it this alt. sufficient? also will a 4 gauge amp kit be sufficient? according to that chart it really says i should run 1 or 2 gauge but the terminals on the amp say they are for 4 gauge only. and what gauge speaker wire should i run?

and lastly how do i hook up my system with a capacitor? i have a 5 farad cap is that alright? thanks guys for any input...
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Do you have any stats on the Amp, like what the watts or RMF level is.

A 130 Amp Altenator is about 40 amps over OEM.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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oh man my mistake. its a 1600 mono amp there are two 80 amp fuses on the side, the BIG ones, and i believe oem is actually 60. i was told back in the day to actually run a 135 amp alt but i found one for a kickin deal on ebay.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Ebay?????


1600 watts right? Do you know what the RMS is.

I had a 1000 RMS amp before and did just fine 2 gauge
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Acidcrakker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ebay?????


1600 watts right? Do you know what the RMS is.

I had a 1000 RMS amp before and did just fine 2 gauge</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes ebay. a place reccomended by fcm i believe. its 1600 watt at 1 ohm. can anyone please answer my other questions?
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Run 2ga from the batt. to the cap, [pos.(+) terminal] mount cap as close to amp as possible, run a 4ga from cap, [pos.(+) terminal] to amp, [pos.(+) terminal run a 4ga ground from amp and a 2ga ground from cap to the same ground point, [cars floor pan, seat and seat belt bolts/studs work well]. 94

PS, don't forget to charge the cap before connecting it to the batt.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Run 2ga from the batt. to the cap, [pos.(+) terminal] mount cap as close to amp as possible, run a 4ga from cap, [pos.(+) terminal] to amp, [pos.(+) terminal run a 4ga ground from amp and a 2ga ground from cap to the same ground point, [cars floor pan, seat and seat belt bolts/studs work well]. 94

PS, don't forget to charge the cap before connecting it to the batt. </TD></TR></TABLE>




also waht sub are you going to run. Never mind the fuses on the amp.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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2 kicker L7's dvc 4 ohm. is a 130A alt. sufficient?
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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There are a number of factors that come into play.

First is amp efficiency, assuming the amp is 50% efficient, it will need about 190A to make 1600W of RMS power.

Second is music is dynamic so even when cranked to the pin the average draw will be much less then 190A.

Third, it is unlikely you listen to the system "cranked to the pin" so max and average current draw will be way down

Forth, the cars batt. and the stiffening cap will help supply the extra current at peak demand.

There are other factors, but if this is a daily driver and you will be listening to the system mostly when driving, the 130A alt. will work just fine.

With that said, if you plan on "cranking it to the pin" a lot for long periods of time, I would recommend a bigger alt., [200A] and a second batt. 94
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are a number of factors that come into play.

First is amp efficiency, assuming the amp is 50% efficient, it will need about 190A to make 1600W of RMS power.

Second is music is dynamic so even when cranked to the pin the average draw will be much less then 190A.

Third, it is unlikely you listen to the system "cranked to the pin" so max and average current draw will be way down

Forth, the cars batt. and the stiffening cap will help supply the extra current at peak demand.

There are other factors, but if this is a daily driver and you will be listening to the system mostly when driving, the 130A alt. will work just fine.

With that said, if you plan on "cranking it to the pin" a lot for long periods of time, I would recommend a bigger alt., [200A] and a second batt. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Isnt this where the Capacitors come into play?
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Acidcrakker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Isnt this where the Capacitors come into play?</TD></TR></TABLE> A cap does not make more current, [it actually adds more load to the alt.] only a bigger alt. can supply more current.
With that said, I am a firm believer in adding a cap to any sub amp, regardless of amps power or alt. output 94
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