On slicks or otherwise? Any problems with oil starvation? If so, what did you do to fix it?

 

No problems with the H22A on streets or DOT race tires.


Matt

 

No problem if the oil level is topped. But the H22A will experience oil starvation at 1 quart below (not hard to get there, the way that sucka burns oil) but at least the computer will save ur *** and cut the fuel if oil starvation occurrs. Happened to me once when i forgot to check the oil level before going out on the track.

 

I have been tracking my Prelude for three years with relatively few problems. As mentioned as long as you have your oil filled all the way up to the full line you be fine. I will be racing in SCCA Improved Touring S starting in October. Here is a picture of the car.

 

3 words - baffled oil pan

 

Who's? Moroso is the only one I know of, though I don't hear many positive comments about it...

 

Is this just a flaw in the H22 oil pan design? Do other motors experience this problem at all?

 

I will be trying to convince Corey to let me weld his baffles in

 

if there is one thing I can do it is weld

Corey actually does drop off high cam when his starvation problem stirs up

 

A lot of other motors experience this in some form or another. Whitney (BMW 325is as seen in GRM this month) spun a rod bearing due to the problem. I have not yet seen the problem in b-series engines, for what that's worth, but I'm sure it exists to a lesser extent.

DR - nice looking car, I like it.

George - we need to get you to lay off the King Cobra. Homeboy??

 

Carolina Wolf Spiders don't DARE step to the Cobra.

 

And the reason you need more than one is...?
1. You really have two ITRs?
2. You also have a hydraulic suspension on order, and are concerned about the 5" drop?
3. You're building an AWD, dual engine ITR?

And "Homeboy"? Act your age, sir.


Jerry - Who's probably older than George.

 

So it's about what I expected.... marginal. I'm afraid I will have a problem then ... see it in my sig.

Either I have to make a really good pan, lower the sump, add an accusump, or go for the dry sump. The dry sump, while best, is a bitter (expensive) pill to take.

I wonder what a GT-5 style Prelude use, or the Touring Car Champ cars. Those have got to pull well over 1.0G... (I bet they use dry-sumps... spare no expense...)

 

yep, dry sumps are where it's at.............

Tom Fowler uses a baffled oil pan though I believe, I have no clue what the guys from the USTCC use in there H22's, but with the money in those cars I would be suprised if it wasn't a dry sump

 

I want to get into road racing soon. I've only started autocrossing my car this season.

DR, nice looking prelude. Can you share what you have done with the car?

 

I have been doing a lot of research on this matter because I am experiencing it in an ITR and from what I have found there is no clear cut answer. A baffled pan has to help some, but I just don't know if it is the cure. I have heard dry sumps and accsumps but they are designed to add oil to the engine when it experiences oil starvation, not prevent oil starvation. Also remember that when you add these systems the you have to replace your stock oil pump. Now do you go with the Mugen pan or the Spoon pan??? Well I have heard from more then one source that the Mugen pan is just a stock pan with baffles, so what about the Spoon? I think what I am going to end up doing (unless George uses the Spoon pan ) is taking the stock pan an adding baffles to it. Also keeping the engine just slightly overfilled rather than overfilled too much to the point where the cat can't burn it all off. It happens trust me ask George about the James Bond smoke screen I had going at Hyper fest.


[Modified by Mclaren_F1_Fan, 5:13 PM 7/10/2002]

 

So does any know where I can find a baffled oil pan for the H22A motor? I've also experienced this oil starvation during auto-x'es. It pissed the hell out of me, so I just overfill the motor with oil. This oil starvation also happened to me when I was at the big track at Willow Spring. The section between turn 3 and turn 4 going up the hill.

 

Lockwood Raceworks Expect to pay around 350$..


[Modified by Honda318dx, 1:24 PM 7/10/2002]

 

Funny you mention that track - I'm scared of that loooong turn 2 for the same reason. If it's marginal now in a Prelude, I think I'm screwed unless I do something. This little car will corner way harder than a Prelude, and I can just imagine half the oil stuck to the side of the block. Moroso makes a pan for the H22, but I haven't seen many positive comments about it.

This oil starvation was part of my theory about how people put on the lightened pullies, and *maybe* mistake the pump and bearing damage to be a result of the pulley. Still don't know...


[Modified by kb58, 10:34 PM 7/10/2002]


[Modified by kb58, 10:35 PM 7/10/2002]

 

spoon is the same as mugen. stock pan with baffles welded in. i'm using one.

 

Do it in the middle of the week. That way you're not still hungover, or warming up for getting ripped at the track all weekend