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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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i look in all these forums and see ek's and other things but nothing about ej's . just wanna know, what are some problems that could occur when i swap my b18b1 into my EJ chasis?
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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u will have no problem with this swap is just that the racers always want power with a light weight car like a hatchback but is the same chasis in front and u can get better grip in a ej than an ek
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stocklxcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i look in all these forums and see ek's and other things but nothing about ej's . just wanna know, what are some problems that could occur when i swap my b18b1 into my EJ chasis?</TD></TR></TABLE>

People often refer to chassis codes incorrectly.

People generalize 5th generation ('92-'95) civics as "eg's" and 6th generation ('96-'00) civics as "ek's."

With that said, EJ was both a 5th gen and a 6th gen civic. The EJ1 was a 2 door EX 5th gen, while an EJ8 was a 2 door EX 6th gen.

There's no "EJ chassis" as you say - the only difference would be the difference between 5th generation chassis and 6th generation chassis, which people often wrongfully refer to as "EG's" and "EK's" respectively.

So when reading about other peoples' stuff, '92-'95 ("EG"), and '96-'00 ("EK") are both slangs for the chassis code. No EK model was sold in America as far as I know, it is a JDM hatchback if I remember correctly. The EG is actually a del sol here in America, but in Japan, again, they were hatchbacks also. All 5th generation hatchbacks here I think are EH's.

In any event, just know, summarized:
- EJ is not generation determined, there were EJ models (EJ1 and EJ8, and probably more) in both 5th generation and 6th generation civics.
- EG is ricer slang for '92-'95 civic
- EK is ricer slang for '96-'00 civic

Anything that will work in a hatch, will work in a coupe, and will work in a sedan of the same generation. They might be different on the outside, but under the hood, all 5th gen civics were the same, and all 6th generation civics were the same. DO NOTE: Under the hood, between 5th generation and 6th generation civics, there were differences.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tommy_Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u will have no problem with this swap is just that the racers always want power with a light weight car like a hatchback but is the same chasis in front and u can get better grip in a ej than an ek</TD></TR></TABLE>

Were you actually trying to answer his question or were you just attempting to confuse him further?

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@ OP:
None, the LS/GS swap is a pretty standard B series swap into a civic chassis. You just need the integra (B series) mounts, axles, linkage, and ECU. Then whatever misc. brackets you need for toys such as AC and PS. Note that the transmission of your D won't bolt up to the B1.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 03:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People often refer to chassis codes incorrectly.

People generalize 5th generation ('92-'95) civics as "eg's" and 6th generation ('96-'00) civics as "ek's."

With that said, EJ was both a 5th gen and a 6th gen civic. The EJ1 was a 2 door EX 5th gen, while an EJ8 was a 2 door EX 6th gen.

There's no "EJ chassis" as you say - the only difference would be the difference between 5th generation chassis and 6th generation chassis, which people often wrongfully refer to as "EG's" and "EK's" respectively.

So when reading about other peoples' stuff, '92-'95 ("EG"), and '96-'00 ("EK") are both slangs for the chassis code. No EK model was sold in America as far as I know, it is a JDM hatchback if I remember correctly. The EG is actually a del sol here in America, but in Japan, again, they were hatchbacks also. All 5th generation hatchbacks here I think are EH's.

In any event, just know, summarized:
- EJ is not generation determined, there were EJ models (EJ1 and EJ8, and probably more) in both 5th generation and 6th generation civics.
- EG is ricer slang for '92-'95 civic
- EK is ricer slang for '96-'00 civic

Anything that will work in a hatch, will work in a coupe, and will work in a sedan of the same generation. They might be different on the outside, but under the hood, all 5th gen civics were the same, and all 6th generation civics were the same. DO NOTE: Under the hood, between 5th generation and 6th generation civics, there were differences.</TD></TR></TABLE>
To clarify, EG chassis elsewhere included 5th gen Civic hatches, sedans and CRXs (aka, del Sols). Here in the US, the only true EG chassis are a couple of 5th gen sedans and del Sols (but not all of them).

You're correct that there were never any true EK chassis cars sold by Honda stateside. But, EKs actually were sold in most of the rest of the world (Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe, etc) and they include 6th gen Civic hatches and sedans. 6th gen Civic coupes were (depending on the engine selection) EJs and EMs. But some 5th gens are also EJs and some 7th gens are also EMs.

IIRC, this is all correct. Anyway, off to bed.

USDM del Sols

EG1 (93-95 del Sol S / D15B7)
EG2 (94-95 del Sol VTEC / B16A3)
EG2 (96-97 del Sol VTEC / B16A2)
EH6 (96-97 del Sol S / D16Y8)
EH6 (93-95 del Sol Si / D16Z6)
EH6 (96-97 del Sol Si / D16Y7)

5th gen USDM Civics (aka "EGs")

EG8 (92-95 Civic 4dr DX / D15B7)
EG8 (92-95 Civic 4dr LX / D15B7)
EH2 (92-95 Civic 3dr CX / D15B8)
EH2 (92-95 Civic 3dr DX / D15B7)
EH2 (92-95 Civic 3dr VX / D15Z1)
EH3 (93-95 Civic 3dr Si / D16Z6)
EH9 (92-95 Civic 4dr EX / D16Z6)
EJ1 (93-95 Civic 2dr EX / D16Z6)
EJ2 (93-95 Civic 2dr DX / D15B7)

6th gen USDM Civics (aka "EKs")

EJ6 (96-00 Civic 2dr DX / D16Y7)
EJ6 (96-00 Civic 3dr CX / D16Y7)
EJ6 (96-00 Civic 3dr DX / D16Y7)
EJ6 (96-00 Civic 4dr DX / D16Y7)
EJ6 (99-00 Civic 4dr DX-V aka SE aka VP / D16Y7)
EJ6 (96-00 Civic 4dr LX / D16Y7)
EJ7 (96-00 Civic 2dr HX / D16Y5)
EJ8 (96-00 Civic 2dr EX / D16Y8)
EJ8 (96-00 Civic 4dr EX / D16Y8)
EM1 (99-00 Civic 2dr Si / B16A2)
EN1 (98-00 Civic 4dr GX / D16B5)
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